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One Woman Death Panel: Sebelius Won’t Allow Dying Girl to Have Transplant
life news ^ | Steven Ertelt

Posted on 06/04/2013 8:23:51 PM PDT by Morgana

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1 posted on 06/04/2013 8:23:51 PM PDT by Morgana
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To: Morgana

Are the parents of this girl Republicans?


2 posted on 06/04/2013 8:33:45 PM PDT by GeorgeWashingtonsGhost
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To: Morgana

Dear LORD,
Please make a way where there is no way for this young girl. YOU promise, “I know the plans I have for you, plans for good and not for evil to give you a future and a hope.
In JESUS name we pray. Amen.


3 posted on 06/04/2013 8:33:52 PM PDT by stars & stripes forever ((Blessed is the nation whose God is the Lord!))
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To: Morgana

Hope this bitch sleeps well at night. Some day she will pay the price herself.


4 posted on 06/04/2013 8:35:27 PM PDT by elephant
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To: GeorgeWashingtonsGhost

I wouldnt be surprised if they are..if these parents were two lesbians this child would have already gotten the lungs..its not just about how supposedly adult lungs are not meant to be in young children, its what Sebelius said, “Someone lives and someone dies” she is basically saying that this child is going to die anyway so whats the point..this is how Obamacare is going to be run, if your old, or you don’t have a good chance of living a long life, they won’t bother taking care of you..its the true meaning of death panels


5 posted on 06/04/2013 8:36:58 PM PDT by Sarah Barracuda
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To: Morgana

I wonder if the Organ Transplant bureaucracy is the same as it is at the IRS, EPA, etc., where conservatives are abused and Leftists are favored.


6 posted on 06/04/2013 8:40:02 PM PDT by UnwashedPeasant
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To: Morgana

Too bad they were not Democrat Donors

It appears that helps, under Obama’s thuggery


7 posted on 06/04/2013 8:45:57 PM PDT by Mr. K (There are lies, damned lies, statistics, and democrat talking points.)
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To: Morgana

Unfortunately, in this case I believe Sebelius is right, for a couple of reasons (one of which she didn’t mean to prove). First, who should be bumped down the list so this girl can get the transplant? If she gets it, almost certainly someone else will die. Lungs are kind of odd, in that they don’t last very long in transplant situations. They start degrading, unlike other transplanted organs. After 5 or so years, the patient will need another transplant. So, this may only be prolonging the inevitable.

Second, while Sebelius has the authority to suspend the transplant rules, do we really want to further set the precedent of bureaucrats making the decisions instead of qualified medical authorities? I though that was one of the main objections to Ocare. The more exceptions we make, the more exceptions *can* be made. This time it might be a young girl. Next time it might be someone with political connections, or with more money, or the right political beliefs. And worse, the person who is chosen to get bumped down the list might be someone with the wrong beliefs, or who donated to the “wrong” party. I’d much rather that kind of thing get decided by a doctor on the basis of whether the transplant makes medical sense, than on any other factor.


8 posted on 06/04/2013 8:47:19 PM PDT by Little Pig (Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici.)
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To: stars & stripes forever

joining you in prayer.

Amen.


9 posted on 06/04/2013 8:51:45 PM PDT by Shadowstrike (Be polite, Be professional, but have a plan to kill everyone you meet.)
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To: Morgana
This is sick. This is a decision that should be made by the parents (or patient if they are of sound mind or age) and their doctors only and if there is a chance to save her life, it should be tried if possible. I fear for my mother, she is fighting breast cancer, she will be 75 this year, I hope she kicks this before the full Bammycare goes into effect next year. I would not want a job like this, let's put it this way, I would be afraid of ticking the wrong person or people off. Think this way, could you imagine if healthcare was denied to a Tony Soprano or a member of his family?

Prayers up for this girl.
10 posted on 06/04/2013 8:57:36 PM PDT by Nowhere Man (It is about time we re-enact Normandy, at the shores of the Potomac.)
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To: Little Pig

I think we need to get away from transplants and work on tactics to grow replacement organs from the patient’s own (adult) stem cells, but this is a bit OT for now, but I think if we break this barrier, we’d all be better off.


11 posted on 06/04/2013 8:59:41 PM PDT by Nowhere Man (It is about time we re-enact Normandy, at the shores of the Potomac.)
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What would really make Americans sick is how many non US citizens and special minority status groups have jumped lines and received the care that should have gone to American citizens. We’ll never know because those stats will never be known or released.


12 posted on 06/04/2013 9:01:59 PM PDT by Sheapdog (Chew the meat, spit out the bones)
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To: Morgana

Thank heaven for Sebelius! She’s so kind to do the work of an entire Obamacare Death Panel, all by herself.
So efficient and respectful of our tax money.
So refreshing.
Three cheers for Sebelius the Saver!

/s


13 posted on 06/04/2013 9:03:25 PM PDT by faithhopecharity (()
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To: stars & stripes forever

I agree, in Jesus’ Healing Name, Amen


14 posted on 06/04/2013 9:05:28 PM PDT by skr (May God confound the enemy)
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To: Nowhere Man

Remember when Dick Cheney got a new heart and all you heard in the media was how “He’s so old, how come he was able to get one” that is how the left views people, if your old or considered not to have a long life span they just want you dead, they consider you a burden on society.
I dont give a damn about these regulations I say they should go ahead and give this child the lungs..its worth the risk, this child is already at death’s door..if I were this child’s mother I would want to know that EVERYTHING was done to save her life..if she dies without them giving it a shot and finding out if it worked, they will have to live with that regret for the rest of their lives.


15 posted on 06/04/2013 9:11:10 PM PDT by Sarah Barracuda
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To: Morgana
We're finally using Alinsky tactics against the Alinskyites; pick the target, freeze it, and personalize it.

This is a tactic we should use every day against Obamacare. It's a sitting duck now,

16 posted on 06/04/2013 9:18:25 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("Forget it, Jake. It's Eric Holder's people.")
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To: elephant

I suppose that the parents will be getting a visit from the ATF, IRS, Justice Department and the FBI soon.


17 posted on 06/04/2013 9:23:07 PM PDT by chiefqc
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To: Sarah Barracuda
Remember when Dick Cheney got a new heart and all you heard in the media was how “He’s so old, how come he was able to get one” that is how the left views people, if your old or considered not to have a long life span they just want you dead, they consider you a burden on society.

I remember that too. Heck, I'm going through a health crisis now with my mother fighting breast cancer, I fear for her but as of now, she is getting good treatment with chemo. I don't like to make judgements on who should live or die, leave it between the doctors and patients and/or families if the patient cannot speak for themselves. The government should stay out and not make these decisions.

I dont give a damn about these regulations I say they should go ahead and give this child the lungs..its worth the risk, this child is already at death’s door..if I were this child’s mother I would want to know that EVERYTHING was done to save her life..if she dies without them giving it a shot and finding out if it worked, they will have to live with that regret for the rest of their lives.

I don't know a lot about ling transplants but if there is a set of lungs that can fit her both size wise and compatible, then they should use them to save her life if she is one of the ones who is desperate (which she is). I understand you need rules and "going by the book" is a good thing to do but there are times "the book" doesn't address everything or special cases plus there are times you need to bend the rules a bit.

I remember here in Pittsburgh back in the 1980's, there was a kid who had multiple lung transplants that did not work yet they wanted to keep trying. I can see making a case where maybe it isn't going to work but again, leave it to the families and doctors.

If the government was not involved at all, then Sebelius should have no say either way but IIRC, the transplanting agency and its protocols are tied into HHS so she is culpable as well. She should just give it the green light and let the doctors and family take care if it. I know life isn't fair but she should not just shoot the poor kid's chances down like that. I know if it were my kid (or in my life, my mother), I'd do anything to try and save her life.
18 posted on 06/04/2013 9:32:40 PM PDT by Nowhere Man (It is about time we re-enact Normandy, at the shores of the Potomac.)
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To: Nowhere Man

ling=lung (it’s getting late)


19 posted on 06/04/2013 9:33:39 PM PDT by Nowhere Man (It is about time we re-enact Normandy, at the shores of the Potomac.)
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I wish the best for your mother..breast cancer is a tough illness but if she is anything like you I know she is a fighter and she will make it through this..this poor child, not wanting to go to bed at night because she is afraid she might not wake up tomorrow I cannot fathom that kind of fear. Sarah is worth the risk, you give her the lungs, period..and if God forbid she ends up dying anyway, at least they will know that everything was tried..if she dies and NOTHING is done, that will just kill these parents, having to wonder “What If?” She is sitting in that hospital bed dying..if they do nothing she is a goner..she is just lying there waiting to die..do something while there is still time


20 posted on 06/04/2013 9:37:20 PM PDT by Sarah Barracuda
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