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I understand why they are throwing that particular sentence in your face. They are looking for you to ‘take it back’.

Not trying to get personal but maybe some of those women have had abortions and feel guilty. If you ‘take it back’ possibly they feel it will take away their guilt. This is all supposition I know, but my husband knew a girl who had an abortion (not his baby) and never got over her own remorse. If you ‘take it back’ then they still would not ‘get over it’.

If they have not had an abortion but just honestly feel that was overkill, they really do not understand your actual passionate clear thinking on the subject. They won’t, either, if we all ‘take it back’.

So on that thought alone, just drop the subject and suggest they do as well, and refuse to discuss it further. It will stop the outbursts, even if you have to leave the room to stop their haranguing you Tell them it is harassment, liberals understand ‘harassment’.

I have liberals in my family, too. They are young, my niece. Her husband has a band called, of all things, ‘Prague’. They call each other ‘Comrads’ and think it is funny. I doubt if they have any idea of what happened in Prague. It’s very hard not to go over there for me, knowing they will bring up my only blood relative with these moronic ideas.

Even here, on FR, from time to time there are outbursts. I try to be fair and either remain silent or refrain from personal attacks. It’s not productive and will never change someone’s mind. But you have to be true to your beliefs. Your beliefs are thought out, theirs are likely not, and they likely do not have the commitment you do to your ideals.

With people like that if you have to have an association, keep it light. Small talk, etc.

My sympathies, I go through it too. Sigh.

Women that have had abortions and the men who demanded it or paid for it are very difficult to deal with. I had several of both in my family, and despite being conservative in every other way they were rapidly pro-abort until their dying days (they are all gone now).

After abortion, gayness has become the next most contentious thing. I had a very old friend who was not a morally upstanding character but was seemingly a confirmed heterosexual. Many girlfriends, later married, two-timed on his wife with a girl half her age. But then he suddenly went 199.99% pure flaming homo, and it turned out that ever since childhood he had a secret gay sex life. He annonced all this very abruptly and then demanded that everyone accept him. His wife, amazingly, had no trouble with it, nor did any of his friends except me. I was willing to ignore it, but that was not enough. He confronted me online and demanded that I affirm his lifestyle. I refused, and he went berserk. So we are not friends anymore.