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To: allmendream

I agree with pretty much everything in your post.

I don’t care if a someone wants to believe the creation story in the Genesis is 100% factually correct. That’s a perfectly acceptable belief. It’s just you have to believe that when the universe, the earth and all the creatures on it where created, it was done with the appearance that it’s really billions of years old and that evolution is responsible for the diversity of life on earth.

Because that’s really what all the facts (scientific observations) point too.

And that’s what frustrates me with a lot of creationists. Claiming that religious belief is actually supported by science when it couldn’t be further from the truth.


40 posted on 05/13/2013 3:18:55 PM PDT by Swing_Ladder (It's All A Ride.)
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To: Swing_Ladder
Thanks.

And such a belief (i.e. the ‘appearance of age’) is about as useful as ‘Last Thursdayism’ the belief that everything was created with an appearance of age and false memories last Thursday.

If one supposes that God used natural laws to create the universe - then one can develop a useful and predictive model. Thinking that the universe obeys predictable and ordered laws is indispensable to science. But if one supposes that miracles were used to create the universe - there is absolutely no useful applications that would lead to accurate predictions or further discovery.

45 posted on 05/14/2013 9:02:47 AM PDT by allmendream (Tea Party did not send GOP to D.C. to negotiate the terms of our surrender to socialism)
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To: Swing_Ladder
I agree with pretty much everything in your post. I don’t care if a someone wants to believe the creation story in the Genesis is 100% factually correct. That’s a perfectly acceptable belief. It’s just you have to believe that when the universe, the earth and all the creatures on it where created, it was done with the appearance that it’s really billions of years old and that evolution is responsible for the diversity of life on earth. Because that’s really what all the facts (scientific observations) point too. And that’s what frustrates me with a lot of creationists. Claiming that religious belief is actually supported by science when it couldn’t be further from the truth.

We all get to some 'day' yet future have our own accounting with the Creator. Genesis is not a 'story' in the sense of fairy tail/tale. Nowhere in the whole of the Bible is there a declaration or even a hint this earth is young. Instead from Genesis (the beginning) to the last Book Revelation all indications are that this earth and heavens are indeed very very old. What is 'young' on the measurement of time are humans in flesh bodies.

Scientific modeling is based upon pure ignorance, a willingly ignorance at that, of what is literally Written. Peter says in IIPeter 3 there are three different heaven/earth ages... we are in the heaven/earth age that is now, per Peter. That heaven/earth age that WAS is described being destroyed in Genesis 1:2 and other places wherein everything, 'life' that is, was destroyed when the devil rebelled. Flesh bodies have a time expiration date placed upon them but the soul/spirit intellect placed in the womb at conception returns to the Maker that sent it. This is the reason why the evolutionary fairy tail/tale is junk science.

Peter says that a day with the LORD is as a thousand years.... so that would mean that those days of creation spanned at minimum 8 thousand years...

53 posted on 05/14/2013 11:02:00 PM PDT by Just mythoughts
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