Posted on 03/06/2013 1:26:12 PM PST by Perdogg
Cruz/Rand 2016
Interestinger and interestinger. (Or more and more interesting for the grammar nazis.)
If this turns out to be the case, Cruz would be at the very top of my list of favored candidates. He has the guts, the communication skills, and the experience to run a great campaign and be a great leader.
The birthers will disagree.
Yeah, Walker’s “inner Wisconsin liberal” will pop out at the darndest times....so he’s great for Wisconsin, but he ain’t the national answer. Cruz on the other hand....no inner Wisconsin liberal inside that man I’m fairly sure.
It would help their case if they would do 2 things:
A: get someone of the ilk of Cucinelli or Levin to EVER agree with them on NBC status......and
B: Quit muddying up the issue of NBC and the place of birth of the actual person in question.
According to birthers, Cruz fails the criteria on two accounts. 1) Only his mother was a U.S. citizen at the time of his birth. His father was a Cuban immigrant to the U.S. 2) Cruz was born in Calgary, Alberta, Canada - his parents were there on business with the oil business.
IBTZ (of the birther entourage).
His path to citizenship pretty much finishes him.
One only needs to be born a U.S. citizen rather than have to be naturalized as a citizen.
That has always been the rule as the Constitution only mentioned or envisioned THREE types of U.S. citizen.
One type were those who were citizens at the time of the adoption of the Constitution. They are all dead.
Currently there are only TWO types of U.S. citizen - those who were born U.S. citizens and those who had to be naturalized as citizens.
He was indeed a US citizen at birth, but did he claim to be ‘natural born’ as well?
In what way?
Being a natural born citizen used to require having both parents be US citizens.
That’s a nice spin for the pro-Rubio, Jindal, Cruz types, but it is at least open to debate, considering that the language used in the Constitution for only issue of the presidency fits with the higher standard that the term was commonly known to mean at the time.
Cruz was BORN a U.S. citizen. He was not naturalized at any point in his life.
I did not write what you just quoted.
Yes, he was born a US citizen, but he does not appear to meet the standard of ‘natural born citizen’ as was used and applied at the writing of the Constitution.
I doubt it will be enforced, as Obama, at least by his public story of his origins, failed to meet it and is quite obviously holding office today—and I expect it’s just another bit of the Constitution that will be ignored.
The term “natural born” applied to most of the founding fathers - they were “natural born” subjects of England - most of whom were NOT born in England. Obviously the term as they understood it did not include having to be born in the nation. According to English law birth place was not the primary consideration - as one Brit pointed out when people said he was Irish (he was born in Ireland) “being born in a barn doesn’t make one a horse.”.
The “higher standard” still applies just as when the Constitution was written - of the three types of citizen the Constitution establishes - naturalized citizens are excluded from the Presidency.
Is Sen Ted Cruz a naturalized citizen? No. He is not.
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