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To: BobL

I am 72 years old. I was forced to pay into Social Security and forced to have Medicare. Do you actually think of these programs as welfare. That we seniors use these because we want to???? I would have loved to take all the money my husband and I paid into these programs over 50 years and put them into a private fund but we had no choice. I resent youremarks and suggest you look up SS and medicare and get educated. I am not an old geezer taking handouts.


21 posted on 01/23/2013 8:22:08 PM PST by sibb1213
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To: sibb1213

You were nit forced to “pay into” anything but the U.S. treasury. There is no connection between taxes paid and eventual benefits received. That you and others persist in thinking otherwise, even after the central government admitted it, is a testament to the practical political (evil) genius of FDR, or whoever actually came up with it.


25 posted on 01/23/2013 8:32:52 PM PST by Tublecane
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To: sibb1213

“I am 72 years old. I was forced to pay into Social Security and forced to have Medicare. Do you actually think of these programs as welfare. That we seniors use these because we want to???? I would have loved to take all the money my husband and I paid into these programs over 50 years and put them into a private fund but we had no choice. I resent youremarks and suggest you look up SS and medicare and get educated. I am not an old geezer taking handouts.”

I’ve been working over 30 years myself, and I remember, from DAY ONE, everyone (young) saying that there was no way that Social Security would be there when we retired, so it’s been an OPEN SECRET that Social Security wasn’t real, since you were in your 40s, if not before then (and before then, the tax was much, much, lower than it is now).

Given that, you should have known that Social Security was simply a disguised income tax, since the money was NOT going into Al Gore’s lock box, but was being consumed in the general fund. The company that I worked for back then was also “borrowing” from its own pension fund - and I still remember the old timers then telling me how angry they were about it. They understood what it meant to steal retirement money.

But those people never complained about the same thing being done with Social Security...I guess they figured they were ENTITLED to the earnings of my kids. So I resent that too.


36 posted on 01/24/2013 4:19:37 AM PST by BobL
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To: sibb1213
I am 72 years old. I was forced to pay into Social Security and forced to have Medicare. Do you actually think of these programs as welfare.

Ask a person who thinks s.s. recipients are on welfare, what he thinks about it when he becomes eligible if s.s. is welfare and you will likely find a whole changed attitude. Anybody under 50 might deny that possibility now, let's wait and see if when they start receiving s.s. if they faithfully return those checks every month.

51 posted on 01/24/2013 6:24:03 AM PST by Graybeard58 (Jesus Christ the same yesterday, and to day, and for ever.)
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