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To: Mouton

Former CPO (HMC/FMF) who retired as a LCDR. Made Chief off the ‘87 selection board and was in the last initiation that really was a wild and crazy free-for-all. After that year, the Navy gradually began trying to “clean up” the initiation process, as the Master Chief in the article notes. I’ve seen this one coming for a loooong time. Ever since G.W. Bush made Mike Mullen CNO back in 2005, and then CJCS in 2007, the heat being put on the Navy Chief community has been building.

Mullen was no field operator, out there slinging lead in a rife company, but a surface warfare type. And fairly liberal to boot, plus a politician. CPOs that didn’t see him coming from over the horizon line missed a huge warning flare being shot into the air.

Now Navy Chiefs are what? Without the initiation and the process you go through to earn those anchors what’s to set the CPO apart from a Navy E6 or a SNCO in the other services? I spent many years on the “green side” (Marine Corps, as a Hospital Corpsman and then as a commissioned officer), and even over there “the Chief” was THE chief and everybody knew it. Now? Meh...


8 posted on 01/17/2013 12:59:12 PM PST by BigKahuna ("When somebody's not getting the job done, you gotta let him go.")
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To: BigKahuna
what’s to set the CPO apart from a Navy E6 or a SNCO in the other services?

As somebody who never went beyond E5, I would have never known the difference other than the fact that my new CPO(sel) was suddenly grouchy and tired all of the time.

The khaki's were enough to set him apart for me.

Having never gone through it, I can't give as educated an opinion as you can. But it seemed silly to me at the time. CPO(sel) would be falling asleep at his desk and yelling at us all day because he hadn't slept and was getting messed with all the time.
21 posted on 01/17/2013 1:23:09 PM PST by mmichaels1970
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