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To: LouAvul
"Stay away from pump shotguns."

I strongly disagree with your comments on shotguns, but whole heartedly agree with your choice of handgun for the reasons stated.

1) Shotguns: Winchester makes several configurations of their Defender. It's a pump that has choice of stocks, an 18" barrel, 3" chamber, and holds 7 shots with 1 in the chamber. (It's good to leave the chamber empty and still have 6 in the hole so you make the unmistakable sound of racking the beast.) That's a gun which is easy to learn, aim/use, maintain, and will stop anybody without shooting up the neighborhood. Plus, you can buy a longer barrel and target shoot or hunt with it.

2) Pump vs semiauto: I've used a Browning 12 GA semiauto for 40 years and I can't tell you how many times I've had misfires or jams that required me to clear the chamber - but it's my skeet gun that I've used since I was 10, so I stuck with it - plus it's a Belgian Browning. I've had the same problems with my semiauto Colt .380 handgun, but never my S&W .44 revolver or pump Defender. Jams are frustrating when target practicing, but it's NOT what you want in an emergency. It's also more complicated to clean a semiauto. With a pump, as with a revolver, you don't have to worry about awkwardly clearing a misfire or jam. That's a BIG deal for a defensive weapon.

70 posted on 01/08/2013 12:36:08 PM PST by uncommonsense (Conservatives believe what they see; Liberals see what they believe.)
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To: uncommonsense
Shotguns aren't for the novice/inexperienced shooter. Practically speaking, the shotgun owner has two choices, the pump or the semiauto. The semiauto is unwise for the reasons I specified. It's too complicated for Harry Homeowner who likely won't even look at the gun after he buys it. It'll just be there, and if he needs it in a hurry/crisis he won't remember how to operate it.

It's the same for the pump. Both types have a safety, etc.

For a gun owner like the OP, someone who won't even look at the gun after he buys it and fires it, a revolver is the only choice.

As far as size, even a shotgun w/18 inch barrel (one of my bedside guns is a Remington 870 express HD) is still a big gun. Fine for someone who takes the time to get and stay proficient, but that's not going to be the OP. He'll buy it, shoot it, and store it.

80 posted on 01/08/2013 1:17:11 PM PST by LouAvul
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