[Dr. Sivana]

My husband insists that computer viruses are made and released by the same people who sell anti-viral software.

I wouldn't doubt that MacAfee, given its founders behavior, followed that route, especailly with the Michalangelo virus that sprung it to prominence. I would also suspect Kaspersky, simply because it is the Russian way.

[Hardraade]

Most of the houses have done that sort of thing. They will tell you that the AV virus writer is a myth. It is not. In my collection I have a lot of nasty stuff that is written by people on the inside, both known and unknown.

Eugene was never pushing viruses, but I remember him having at least one former writer.