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To: Jeff Winston
You are only defending what you would like those things to be.

And that is an assumption on your part. There is plenty of evidence in the Historical record that supports my understanding of what is a "natural citizen." There is also evidence that supports yours. I just happen to perceive that your definition serves no purpose, and therefore violates my basic belief that the founders were not idiots.

Your understanding is based on endless repetition of mostly what uninvolved legal people have subsequently said. (Misinterpreted Precedent.) My understanding is based on what the founders said were their intentions and in regards to the principles they put forth while establishing this nation.

On a separate issue, there is a lot more to the story of Captain James McClure than I think you realize. From what I have learned so far, it sounds like it would make a great movie.

289 posted on 11/21/2012 9:40:23 AM PST by DiogenesLamp (Partus Sequitur Patrem)
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To: DiogenesLamp
There is plenty of evidence in the Historical record that supports my understanding of what is a "natural citizen."

Not that I've seen. And like quite a few other people here, I've actually looked. And not just once. Birthers have brought up all kinds of stuff here. You go and check it out, and the reality just doesn't match the hype.

As for the founders being idiots, they most certainly weren't. But that doesn't mean they did things according to the way you or I, more than 200 years later, think they "ought" to have done them. They did them as they did them, and they had their reasons. Some things they cared a lot about, and some not so much.

On a separate issue, there is a lot more to the story of Captain James McClure than I think you realize. From what I have learned so far, it sounds like it would make a great movie.

If they make a great movie out of it, I'll probably watch it.

292 posted on 11/21/2012 12:28:29 PM PST by Jeff Winston
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