Caste Based Politics

[sagar]

There was an article in an Indian newspaper about caste and politics. It said how Indian politics was about caste mobilization and caste-based voting blocs.

I think American politics has become caste based as well. Blacks were already voting en-mass for Democrats, but other groups were more or less split across ideological lines; barring blacks, principles mattered to most other groups.

Now, principles do not matter.

Blacks - 95% Democrats
Hispanics - 75% Democrats
Asians - 70% Democrats
White Males - 70% Republicans


Ironically, it is white females who are evenly split across ideological lines. Every other major group is voting in caste bloc!

[sagar]

It is not good for the country when group identity, not logic and principles, dictates whom the group votes for.

[TortReformer]

I was just explaining the similarities to an 18 year old high school graduate today....seems others have the same observation that I do....

[Eric in the Ozarks]

We already have the curse of multiple languages...

[CharlesMartelsGhost]

The new age of american politics where tribalism trumps principles.

[SaraJohnson]

Conservatives have been saying that since liberals introduced “multiculturalism” (foreign tribalism/racism) and denounced and systematically erased American civics, culture and history.

It’s been done so that most Americans have no idea of American values or freedom. That has all been tagged rrrraaaaacis.

Also, the white female vote for the tribal haters of their skin tribe and total ignorance of their own culture beyond leftist denouncement of it, has been created by feminism’s and homosexualism’s humanist hatred of Christ and jealousy of white men.

So there you have it; a targeted and defeated majority native tribe, and a set of ignorant, resentful and hateful minority tribes. This is just as the Brits did to India when they invaded it.

[WriteOn]

Agree. Caste aka identity politics.

[sagar]

“...the tribal haters of their skin tribe and total ignorance of their own culture beyond leftist denouncement of it, has been created by feminism’s and homosexualism’s humanist hatred of Christ and jealousy of white men.”

You sound like the exact kind of tribalist you claim to denounce.

[INVAR]

Having lived in India in the slums with low caste Christians for the first half of this year - I concur that your assessment is exactly correct.

We are become caste-based in our politics and identities.

Caste is nothing but a system of Satan. It is insidious and beyond your comprehension. Nobles and serfs is the closest understanding we would have as to how caste operates and works.

There IS NO ADVANCEMENT OR OPPORTUNITY TO GO UP THE LADDER in a caste-based system. Your tribe, your name, your skin color, your caste - is your designation for life. And the entirety of society works to ensure that castes stay within the bounds the upper ruling castes prescribe for the rest of society.

I have seen and witnessed misery you cannot wrap your mind around as an American. I have seen an existence of life that we would not consider to be human.

And that is where we in America are going and have partially adopted.

[muawiyah]

East Asian origin Americans who vote for Democrats are forgetting who put Japanese American women and children into concentration camps ~ and stripped the entire community of all its accumulated wealth.

So to speak, East Asians easily betray their race ~ if they think the Democrats will murder them last.

It's a strange belief on their part ~ a slave's sort of belief. Time to put that stupid superstition behind them and join the modern world.

[muawiyah]

Sorry Sara, the ancient Indian documents reveal the caste system, and tribal identity politics, were well in place before Krishna arrived on Earth.

They're working their way out of that very slowly ~ but that problem predates the formation of Western Europe ~ probably by thousands of years!

In short, the English didn't create it and impose it.

[GeronL]

Half of this country are slaves working for the lazy slave masters.

[muawiyah]

That having been said, the white women who vote Democratic are elementally stupid or thuggish. So are all the people who vote for the Democrats. That’s their voting bloc

[sagar]

"Caste is nothing but a system of Satan. It is insidious and beyond your comprehension. Nobles and serfs is the closest understanding we would have as to how caste operates and works. There IS NO ADVANCEMENT OR OPPORTUNITY TO GO UP THE LADDER in a caste-based system. Your tribe, your name, your skin color, your caste - is your designation for life. And the entirety of society works to ensure that castes stay within the bounds the upper ruling castes prescribe for the rest of society."

The problem is that it is not that simplistic. It used to be... not in the last 15 years. There are lowest-caste parties in power where the lowest caste politicians rule and have amassed billions for them. The closest thing I can think of here in the US is the Jesse Jackson/Al Sharpton type pimps who use the past misery to exploit their own people.

Here is a shot of a lowest caste politician who was wearing a cash garland:

Her party is all about low caste identity, similar to other caste parties. Her voters are lowest caste(dalits). They will vote for her regardless... she uses power and money to shrug off her caste complex.

[MachIV]

Pat Buchanan has become a prophet crying in the wilderness.

[x]

But is there anything new in this? American politics has always had a powerful racial/ethnic/religious dimension. It saved us from naked class-based voting typical of other countries.

[sagar]

You have a point, but this identity based voting is poisonous! At least with class-based, people could move up and down. With this caste based, you are how you were born! It is stable, but too much stagnant... a poison that will rot the society from within.

[sagar]

“Pat Buchanan has become a prophet crying in the wilderness.”

Buchanan might be a prophet who hints at the truth, but his truth has big doses of tribalism — he puts too much emphasis on identity and fear of loss of identity. To Buchanan, his ancestor-worship triumphs his principles. The only guy closer to the true principle is .... Ron Paul! He represents true American individualism and self determination! Not popular here but that is the truth.

[SaraJohnson]

It’s true that like all lands of the earth, an order of tribes existed in Indian history. What I was saying is that the British elite used that tribalism stragegically, to plot the rule, enslavement and pillaging of India, for their own benefit.

That is what the elitists do when they take over people’s lands: pit one race; one religion, one class; one gender against another. The theme changes based on the weaknesses of division within the people in the targeted land.

Elitists did it to Americans with race, class and sex. First they did it against native Indian tribes, then whites against blacks and other minorities, with men against women then they turned it up-side-down and are going at it with minority tribes against whites with women against men. They are still doing this with the end purpose of enslaving and “ruling” over the labor and wealth of targeted people. Today they do it in the name of socialism rather than in the past, in the name of royalty. It always sounds ideal - high and mighty...

No matter which tribe(s) or groups they perfer at the moment, they are controlling the undoing the freedom and strength of the “perferred” ones, as they go after the targeted ones they deem dangerous to their control and rule. Corruption of one’s mind and soul to hate, abuse and disrespect a demonized group of people upon the elite’s demand, is necessary to be accepted and promoted by the elitists, in history, as it is still today. You have to sell your soul to them to get ahead. For example, if you are not a socialist, you are not going to be a Black studies, Hispanic studies or history professor. If you are poltically incorrect, you won’t rise in most commerce today.

The more progress they make in rule, the harsher and bloodier they become via use of their perferred tribe(s) and the less conscience, freedom and independence the perferred tribes and the targeted tribes - everyone has. People of defeated lands are divided and conquered with a lot of help from their “high and mighty” elitist pals who will be crushing the current perferred ones when it serves them in the future.

It will be interesting to see what develops socially in India as the modern day globalists move in and seek total power over their souls, labor and resources in the name of jobs...again. To me, globalism looks like the darker aspects of world history repeating itself with a new jig.

[MachIV]

Ron Paul is a fraud of epic proportions and identity IS what it is about. PERIOD.

I bet you think Ron Paul actually cares about gun rights don’t you? FACT: Ron Paul placed a vote in the House of Representatives that if passed would have resulted in gun manufactures being sued out of existence.

Ron Paul doesn’t give a rats ass about you or your gun rights.