Posted on 10/19/2012 5:01:39 PM PDT by Dallas59
“Since the Chinese know all of that, why not use Mexico for a honey laundering locale, too? Even without the tollroad. The Mexican honey biz is big enough to hide many a barrel of sin within...”
I really think that in the long run, the best way to deal with Chinese honey is to push on the quality side. As people get used to eating more local honey, they’ll demand it and you really can taste the difference.
The problem with the Chinese honey isn’t that it’s Chinese, it’s that they’re pawning off their garbage on us. Give me some clean and carefully produced, exotic honey and I’ll be happy to try it and eat it. It’ll also be more costly and not so much a threat to our domestic industry.
Besides local beekeepers, I also buy from this source:
http://www.cybercucina.com/ccdocs/products/LC936R-x.html
Superb.
Me too. Here’s what I buy online:
http://www.madhavasweeteners.com/organic-agave-nectar/organic-agave-nectar/
It crystallizes if you refrigerate it. I have never had it do so on the shelf. When it crystalizes 15 seconds in the microwacve takes care of that.
I get mine from the Amish around here.
Yup, I answered with a correction in my post #74 in this thread...and thank you...glad to see a couple folks here sharper than me...proof reading is my friend...if I would just do it :)
“Yes, thank you. A gallon weighs 12 lbs, a quart 3 lbs. The math in the previous post is correct for the cost per lb, I divided the cost per quart by 3.”
Yeah, I get the light (the dark has more taste, which I don’t want)
at Walmart or Kroger.
It’s in most stores, except Target, grrrrrrrr, which is closest to me.
It runs 5.89 give a penny or two but it goes a long way for me.
I like dark, for deeper taste. It’s cheaper online than in stores:
http://madhavahoney.elsstore.com/view/product/?id=18965&cid=30451
Back in the late 70’s I bought honey in 5 gal. glass containers from a local beekeeper and I think was about 10.00. Good days.
The Honey Man here in central AZ has the real stuff and it is great!
We do too. We call it the Honey Wagon. Most folks call it the septic system service pumping truck.
Yeah. I live near a lake. Right now we don’t have a sewer system and many of us older residents have septic systems. Houses that have been resold in the past five years have to install holding tanks so we have the “honey wagons” come around quite often. Nothing like enjoying a hot summer day with the neighbors 1500 gallon tank being emptied.
A couple of years ago some of them went to jail for it. They made the mistake of re-entering the U.S.
There is some continued garbagy import, but legally labeled as "honey syrup". Clean product, just about as clean as the little honey syrup packets that one can receive at KFC to go with the biscuits.
Consumers are getting a re-education in regards to honey, that is true (even though you didn't exactly put it that way). Yet I'd like to be able to buy the stuff cheaper myself, and I've worked for a honeybee outfit, just recently. More along the lines of pollination and queen production though.
When set side by side, most folks will go for the light amber honeys, that carry the lower price. Honey syrup surely can look "clean". None of us want to be paying honey prices, even relatively low honey prices, just for HFCS 55 colored by a bit of real honey.
There is still a place for a strong inspection program. One a bit more thorough than we have now could be good. I've heard rumors that some large domestic honey producers, in years past got away with moving not insignificant quantities of adulterated honey through one of the largest packers. Steps have been taken to reduce if not eliminate that sort of thing...or so I have read.
If problems persist (or worse, increase) in regards to imported honeys, then there is a somewhat simple solution. Ban imports of pressure filtered honey from whichever nations cannot or will not cooperate with a reasonable inspection process.
The honey could still be imported (if it was real honey), just have to have it's final filtering and packing in the United States.
"So solly, chaw-lee, and too bad little mr. viet cong guy. Round eye has wised up. You no wippy us off no mo."
We know they have no respect for us, but their own price pressure issues are not OUR problem, so quit trying to make us literally eat it! Let the Dept. of Agriculture have enough authority to do what they need to do. Levy enough tariff against the product to pay for the program. Reduction in those tariffs could be given for those nation which have strong enough food laws (applicable to honey processing/packing) and whom have their own inspection process, which WE can drop in unannounced and spot check.
If they don't like it and whine about it, then refer them to the EU, and advise them to try and import their honeys THERE. (hey, they can get a better price. Europeans pay out the nose for honey) But just try that on for size, and go through the process to sell it there. Rotsa' ruck!
In comparison, the import doors into the U.S. are wide frickin' open.
“In comparison, the import doors into the U.S. are wide frickin’ open.”
I’m a conservative, but no great fan of “free trade.” To date it has brought us:
-tiger mosquitoes
-varroa destructor
-small hive beetles
Not to mention the other economic problems it has brought in it’s wake.
Lie: (76% of all supermarket Honey is fake)
Vaughn Bryant, a professor at Texas A&M University. He found that most of them had all of the pollen filtered out.
Honey is filtered to get the pollen out to help reduce the number of people having allergic reactions and thus the number of times they get sued.
That does not mean the honey is fake.
If Bryant is saying filtered honey is "fake" honey he is going to get HIS keester sued. But I note that he is not saying that. What he said is that lacking pollen you can not prove where the honey came from by analyzing the pollen. Fair enough.
You also cannot tell if your sugar was raised in Hawaii or Cuba, your flour was grown in Kansas or Canada. That is why companies keep paperwork saying where it came from.
What a lot of words about nothing.
The honey market has been horribly polluted for years:
http://www.foodsafetynews.com/2011/08/honey-laundering/
Thanks...what electrical property were they looking at? Dielectric constant? Interesting.
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