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To: savagesusie; trailhkr1

There are two world views:

Naturalism - that this world we see/touch/hear/feel/smell is all there is. Human beings are sacks of flesh, with no transcendent purpose or meaning, no eternal soul, just meat, and getting while the getting is good (how ever people think) is all there is to this temporary life. “Morality” is man made so what’s “true for you is true for you, and what’s true for me is true for me”. Or morality “evolves” as people toss off the prison restraints of religion based do’s and don’t’s and are now “freer” since the old prohibitions are thrown in the trash.

God Centered World View - That life has transcendent meaning that is not dependent on human minds; that God created everything, and all humans are in fact eternal souls, with meaning and purpose to life that comes from God, and not just human minds thinking up stuff. Therefore, since God exists as the supreme creator, controller and authority, He makes the rules and laws and it is not only humans’ responsibility to follow find out and follow these rules and laws, but by doing so individuals and societies will be more peaceful and happy by doing so.

Every religion has very similar if not almost exactly the same, rules for sexual behavior. Sex within marriage, open to the prospect of children, is the universal original standard. On the other hand, the Naturalist world view has no standard at all, other than “do it if it feels good”. Accompanied by “anyone who has religion based moral standards is weird, wrong, mentally ill, prejudiced, harmful, etc”.

If a human being does not seek transcendent truth - God centered meaning and purpose to his life, then such a human life is actually worse than animal life. Living just for sex (or any other sensual gratification) is no different than an animal life; except for these two factors:

1. Animals have no choice in the matter, as they are ruled by instinct and have little (almost none) free will or the ability to contemplate the meaning of life.

2. They do not act against their nature (unless tortured in zoos etc) because their instincts are God given and they have their roles to play in the universe (their eternal souls’ existence is another story for another day).

Whereas humans DO have free will, so for a human to misuse the human life by living just for sensual gratification without searching after transcendent meaning and purpose to life, such a human is actually behaving WORSE than an animal, who has no choice. Your obsession with sex without any relation to marriage, family, children or morality puts you smack dab in the “lower than animal” category.

Which is a sad waste of a human life.

Believe it or not, I do not hate or loathe you in any way. But I do abhor your mentality and the message you post non-stop on FR. You seem to post almost solely on threads about sex, constantly pushing the “if it feels good, do it” message.

I do see you as a suffering soul, clinging to temporary and shallow gratification as the all in all in your life. Unfortunately, the flash of sexual pleasure is not only over quickly, but it is shallow, and cannot fill the heart with the deepest joy, wisdom or real satisfaction. Not only that, it gets duller with the passing of time and the aging of the body, which is inevitable, except for those who depart from the body at a young age. And sex pleasure sought for without any reference to marriage or family or children is especially shallow and eventually becomes very bitter. And invariably requires birth control and abortion and also invariably results in huge numbers of fatherless children.

Sex for most people is a necessity, just as eating is a necessity for everyone. But eating just for to gratify the tongue, caring nothing for nutrition or health, leads to obesity and myriad health problems. While eating healthy food in proper quantity not only nourishes the body with what is actually needed, without loading it up with toxins and vile “non-food items”, is actually tastier and more satisfying, once a person is weaned from the unhealthy junk.

Similarly, a sexual relationship within marriage, taking the responsibility of children and family into the picture, makes the sex act “just for the release” akin to snacking on junk food. The sex life of husbands and wives who love each other in a committed marriage is always reported to be much more satisfying than that of the hookup/temporary “relationship” slut crowd.

You claim that 97% of men would jump on a slut gladly. This speaks volumes about you and the people you know, and does not reflect reality. None of the men I know well would jump on a slut gladly.


43 posted on 10/17/2012 2:57:49 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: little jeremiah
You claim that 97% of men would jump on a slut gladly. This speaks volumes about you and the people you know, and does not reflect reality. None of the men I know well would jump on a slut gladly.

I never said "jump a slut" but a young, attractive woman who propositioned them for sex...maybe a coworker or a friend ...there is a difference....not all woman who need some "relief" every so often are sluts..far from it. And 97% of single/unattached men (and sadly a significant amount of married men) would if the woman was attractive ..you are totally clueless if you think otherwise...ok maybe 90% would be more in line.

Being a female you have no idea the sex drive of males. Look at all the female teacher/younger male student threads and how many guys on FR wish they were the kid.

Your male friends who would not have a no commitment sexual contact with a young, attractive woman are not the norm(good or bad)..trust me on that one.

47 posted on 10/17/2012 3:30:35 PM PDT by trailhkr1
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