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To: Blogger
Ah. I see what you're doing.

Next you'll tell me that God you worship changed all the rules the moment he kicked Adam and Eve out of the Garden.

Very nicely played.

You can claim anything for the time before that moment. A day lasted millions of years. Death didn't exist. All animals were vegan. Plants didn't die when they were eaten. No wait, eating hadn't been invented yet. Umm, I mean Adam and Eve couldn't eat the Malus, errrr they did. But that was after God both forbid them from doing so and created eating so they could. Tricky guy...

Nice.

Anything and everything can be explained by God done did it. Any attempt to understand anything is heretical, because it implies God is bound by rules.

Must be interesting living in a world where you can't be certain that a rock will fall if you drop it.

He can always change the rules to suit his whim.

Back to the world the rest of us live in:

How deep would the flies be if none of them ever died?

135 posted on 10/12/2012 9:24:39 PM PDT by null and void (Day 1361 of our ObamaVacation from reality - Obama, a queer and present danger)
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To: null and void
You can claim anything for the time before that moment.
I don't claim it. The God before whom You will one day bow does. I will take His Word over the pontifications of mad scientists any day.
136 posted on 10/12/2012 11:02:58 PM PDT by Blogger
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To: null and void

Don’t know what your background is, but you are all over the map with that last post. First, God is way more than any box man attempts to confine him too. He spoke time and matter into existence - even physics agrees that reversing time brings one back to a singularity - for me that has to be God simply b/c of the order not just in all DNA but throughout the Universe. Simply put explosions, i.e the big bang, do not create order they increase disorder.

Second, yes, death and destruction entered His creation with the eating of the forbidden fruit. When He declares it is all good on the 6th day the implication is all is perfect - not a spot nor blemish. With the fall He had to basically rewire all living things - and even this was for the benefit of mankind [getting ahead of myself, but it will all make complete sense when we get to Heaven].

Adam named the animals, indicating He endowed us with language [something that still confounds evolution for any reasonable explanation], but He also said He gave us every seed-bearing plant for us to enjoy. So yes, the fruits and vegetables they produced did ‘die’ so to speak [even that is debatable since the entire plant was not killed nor consumed]. Regardless, God does indicate all the plants were food for man and the animal kingdom at the end of Genesis 1:28-31.

Fourth God is not bound by rules we are and He did intend for us to subdue creation and master it - meaning, yes, investigate what works and what does not.

Attempting to understand it is not heretical but He does warn later on that when we increase knowledge we also increase suffering. IOW most of our new discoveries get used for evil, usually first, but I challenge you to find one new scientific discovery that has not been used at sometime for evil. I’m still trying to find what it is some folks think is good and useful regarding macro-evolution. Wasn’t natural adaptation first discovered by Mendel btw not Darwin?!

BTW every discipline of study ending with ‘logy’ is b/c we have discovered the logic embodied within it. Apparently everything you have learned about God came from deists, agnostics, and atheists - sheesh. Try studying what Lee Strobel found out - that which converted him from atheism to christianity.


137 posted on 10/13/2012 2:14:27 PM PDT by BrandtMichaels
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To: null and void; Blogger

When Adan and Eve sinned, corruption entered the world; entropy, if you will.

What with all the talk of alternate dimensions and universes by scientists, why is it such a stumbling block to them that the physical laws of the unverse could have changed whe sin entered the world?


150 posted on 10/16/2012 8:43:42 AM PDT by metmom (For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)
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