Posted on 10/10/2012 7:17:05 AM PDT by Feline_AIDS
So why didn’t the Lux thermostatic switch work? I use them to cycle house fans with the temperature and they work great. Are the heater units 220 volts? You can get 220 volts thermostatic switches as well if you need those.
If you definitely plan to move in the spring, check your local eviction regulations. Possibly you can stop paying the rent now, and it may take months for them to legally evict you.
Another idea is to go to local TV news “action reporter” or whatever is available, and make a big deal about it, have it on the news... ?
Quartz heaters as needed is what i do in places I have no other source...old coal fireplaces are pretty and will burn a little wood too but make sure they draft nice...small fire only...but they are not much for heat...a buckstove will run you out of the home in all but NE South Carolina in winter.
I’m in Nashville metro...probably median winter US wise..going without heat in a bad winter here like two years ago would be rough
Renting can be pleasant or excrutiating.
IMHO...
Laws vary based on the municipality and state and are extremely different, especially in practice, depending on where you are.
In NYC, “low income” tenants are pretty much set for life no matter what they do or don’t do, including paying the rent.
In nice suburban towns where renting is very politically incorrect, everything is turned in favor of the landlord and against the tenant. There is absolutely no charitable feeling towards tenants in these areas; I was once evicted 3 or 4 days before the lease expired and was only not physically evicted because I had already moved. I was barely able to keep my head above water at the time and could not come up with the last month’s rent and the deposit on the new place, so I just scooted and let the landlord keep the security deposit. The dude paid costs of evicting me legally when he did not have to; he just wanted in his own mind to feel that he “evicted” me. The court went ahead and issued the eviction order, even though landlord was not due any money because he had the recourse of keeping the deposit, which he did. A complete waste of the court’s time, but it was following “the letter of the law”. I’ve had another landlord that literally waited years for repayment after I moved out, simply kindly calling me.
No sense, IMHO, in “swimming upstream”, i.e., expending mental energy in vain.
Allow me to introduce you to something new: the little tiny cheap portable electric space heater. They have gone a LONG way technologically. Some have thermostats. You really only need one for each 400 to 500 square feet of apartment.
Big problem: they are dangerous if not properly used. All electric devices can cause fires if not properly used.
As a programmer, I’m naturally paranoid just short of the point of insanity (I’m actually just a stickler for getting things right). So if I use heaters, generators, motors, fans, whatever, I go to extremes to make sure I’m not overloading the typical 15 AMP circuit, have no “tinder” anywhere near wires or devices (things like rugs, blankets - anything). Electrical resistence produces heat. Wiring that has too small of an electrical capacity for what it’s being asked to do will heat up and can burn through. Of course all of these devices are now made by laughing communist Chinese who build all electrical equipment they send to use such that it will start fires (power supplies in computers are famous for this). Whatever devices I have around the house, I make sure I’m not setting myself up for problems - I assume that it WILL burst into flames at some point. Pets can cause problems too (chewing, etc.) but will be very reliable if properly trained. They have an uncanny sense of heat sources and will stay away - they can sense electrical current and do not like it.
If one is not meticulous, electrical space heaters may not be the way to go; a house fire is such a bad event that even if it increases the chance of a fire by 0.00001% you would probably not want to take the risk, seeing how you and puppy are in there.
I do all that I can to be prudent and pray that God might protect me for all the things I did not forsee.
The electrical heaters will use electricity, i.e., make the bill higher, so one should try to minimize overuse. There are probably local ordinances that prohibit space heaters, along with smoking, drinking, possessing a firearm and permitting puppy to poop outside. It would probably be smart to keep the space heater between just you and the few million folks who read FR.
IMHO.
I had a lease that said the landlord provided heat, but they arbitrarily decided to rewrite it without heat and raise my rent last year.
Did you sign this ‘arbitrarily” rewriten new lease?
This is a terrible idea. Evictions are legal actions. Withholding rent, at least in Ohio, for any reason without placing the rent into an escrow account with the court, will result in eviction. The landlord will then ask the court to award damages. The judgment will show on a credit report and will more than likely prevent him from renting in the future.
Call the court house that handles evictions in your area and ask about placing your rent into escrow.
If they plug into a socket, you might be able to find a thermostat they can plug into. If it is 220 Voltage and it likely is, it may be harder to find one. If they’re hardwired, you will need an electrician or a H/C person to get a thermostat wired in.
I would withhold rent until the landlord resolves the issue. Get in contact with city officials, aldermen, city council, health department if the landlord doesn’t respond in a timely manner.
If the building and wiring are old, the current required by the heater/air unit may be pushing the limit of what the wiring can handle. Feel the plug/outlet area after it has been on awhile and see how hot it is. Find someone knowledgeable about wiring and have them check the breaker panel and the size/condition of the wire in the outlets. They may be cutting corners that the building inspector and the fire marshal would like to know about.
If the city makes him turn on the boiler they will allow him to add the cost to your rent.
YOUR LEASE SAYS YOU PAY FOR HEAT.
If that will make you happy go for it.
The LG LW7010HR has heat control. The fan will keep running but the heater will turn on and off. There should be a setting that works for you.
Leaking windows will allow cool air in to the thermostat though.
Good luck. You made a bad deal to pay more rent and also pay for the heat but that’s life.
Note that I prefaced the response by sayign to check the local regulations.
Sounds like a case for constructive eviction. Ask a lawyer.
Wow, crazy situation you have there. I can’t figure out why if the heat didn’t work because the radiatiors needed to be bled, they didn’t just bleed them? It takes about 30 seconds. Same for why the owner didn’t just go buy a radiator handle for like 3 bucks?
As to whether the situation is legal, most likely it is not, but it will depend on the laws in your state/locality. Even when you have a lease where you are specifically responsible for providing your own heat, the owner usually must provide the means for the heat, and you just have to pay the bills. Not providing usable heating generally falls under the category of “unlivable conditions”, which means, in most states, you do not have to pay rent until that situation is rectified by the owner.
I’d go see a lawyer that specializes in tenant law, because you can probably not only get the situation remedied, but you might have compensation coming your way, the way this sounds.
I went all winter without furnace heat in central Indiana.
Never dropped below 45 but I was using a woodstove to get thru overnight and whenever I was there to tend to it.
2 options:
Get a 110v light timer to cycle the window unit(s) [might also work with space heater esp. if you could confine your dog to the warmest best-insulated room]. Maybe there’s an option for a 220v timer too?
If you have an electric clothes dryer disconnect the vent hose and clean all the screens and hose airways. Put some old panty hose over the end of the hose or secure with used dryer sheets. You may only be able to run the dryer for an hour or so with heat on high, but I was able to get an extra 5 degrees/hour - downside is you spend a lot more time dusting everything.
Be careful with the timer - it’s a good idea but a light timer doesn’t have the contact rating for a heater... just look at the ratings.
Ya got three units run one .... and crack the window open.
Yes. Dumb, I know. I was able to negotiate month-to-month instead of another year so I could split as soon as my contract was up, but the contract was extended and I'm here another winter.
I will talk to a lawyer. I’m sick of dealing with this.
They did bleed the radiators after they realized that was keeping the new boiler from working, but the under-the-table guys were from three hours away. (You couldn’t make this stuff up.) And every time there was a tiny problem like bleeding a radiator, they’d have to drive three hours here and three hours back. So that caused a time delay in repairs, which caused the dumb girl downstairs to start complaining about it being too hot, which led to them shutting the whole thing off.
The owner himself didn’t go buy the radiator handle himself because he also lives several hours away. They have yet another person acting as the landlord. That person is a clueless drunk who drives around with full wine glasses in the cupholder. (Again, I couldn’t even make this stuff up.) I’m not sure, but I believe the owner inherited the property from his mother, who lived locally and cared about the actual building as well as the tenant. I believe the elderly owner died soon after the new boiler was installed.
It’s a mess.
I’m just slapping my head about this... they should have just given the tenants radiator keys. It’s just a little piece of metal with a square key cylinder, they are all the same and probably cost a buck or two at the hardware store. You guys could have just bled them anytime they needed bleeding.
No kidding! It was a great mystery to me—why didn’t the repair guys add new knobs to all the radiators? My best guess is they wanted to keep getting called back to “fix” it and keep getting paid. It was terrible. And now I’m cold!
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