Archaeologists find the largest amount of skulls at the most sacred temple of the Aztec empire

ArtDaily.org ^ | 10-7-2012 | Adriana Perez Licon

[Renfield]

The archaeologists believe the 45 skulls were those of women and men between 20 and 35 years old and could have been dug up from other sites and reburied. Photo: DMC INAH H. Montano.

[Renfield]

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[fabian]

Isn’t that special! If anyone wants to read first hand evil of huge proportions, just read “ The Conquest of Mexico “
by Prescott. Those Aztec’s were incredibly evil and possessed by some awful beliefs which simply satisfied their lust for blood.

[bubbacluck]

Didn’t Mel Gibson’s “Apocalypto” deal with some of this on film?

[vbmoneyspender]

"We normally associate (it) with heart removal rather than decapitation," she said. "It ultimately gives us a better understanding of how the Aztecs used the human body in various ways in their ritual practices.

All cultures are equal.

[BenLurkin]

Some things never change: http://www.google.com/#hl=en&sclient=psy-ab&q=mexican+cartels+decapitation&oq=mexican+cartels+decapitation&gs_l=hp.3..0j0i30l3.1607.7341.0.7555.28.15.0.0.0.0.2380.4368.0j4j4j1j9-1.10.0.les%3Bcpsugrpq2..0.0...1.1.hLOPCMJVPLg&pbx=1&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_qf.&fp=c67092ad9b82b728&biw=1024&bih=381

[rusty schucklefurd]

re: “”It provides rather novel information on the use and reuse of skulls for ritual events at the Templo Mayor,” Gillespie said in an email. Also, the common belief about Aztec sacrificial stones is that a person being sacrificed was killed by cutting open the chest and pulling out the heart - “We normally associate (it) with heart removal rather than decapitation,” she said. “It ultimately gives us a better understanding of how the Aztecs used the human body in various ways in their ritual practices.”

Maybe it’s just me, but this particular archeologist’s way of describing these horrific practices is rather cold and antisceptic to me. She’s talking about this as though it was just some fascinating medical procedure.

[Dr. Bogus Pachysandra]

“Didn’t Mel Gibson’s “Apocalypto” deal with some of this on film?”

Wasn’t that the movie that had subtitles in English? I didn’t see it, but I don’t do subtitles. If I have to read, I’ll read a book! A movie is a visual experience, and subtitles distract completely from the cinematography. I much prefer dubbing, even poor dubbing, then being forced to take my eyes from the film to read subtitles! I watched “Das Boot” in both versions, and vastly preferred the dubbed version.

[Reily]

Except I think they were supposed to be Mayan.
Both had similar barbaric practices.

[rdl6989]

That hole in the skull looks like it must have been painful for a second.

[fabian]

To a small degree, but not much really. The conquistadors were arriving and the natives how were free ran from the ships also, which was sort of casting the typical...Spaniards were the slaughters view. Far from reality. Seemed that way to me, although I saw the movie quite some time ago. If a real authentic movie was made about Cortex and his 900 men who took on millions of crazed Aztec warriors, it would surpass anything ever made. The odds were huge against them, but he and his men had a real moral fight and outrage and that drove them. They got some spoils of gold and such also, but the battles and trials were far far more testing and hard than any amount of gold that made that the main motivation. But yes, the actual savage murders of the Indians was portrayed pretty good by Gibson.

[cripplecreek]

Maybe it’s just me, but this particular archeologist’s way of describing these horrific practices is rather cold and antisceptic to me. She’s talking about this as though it was just some fascinating medical procedure.

From an archeologist's standpoint that's exactly what it is. No point in getting emotional about it. That's what ruined climatology.

[rusty schucklefurd]

re: “From an archeologist’s standpoint that’s exactly what it is. No point in getting emotional about it. That’s what ruined climatology.”

I totally understand professionalism and the need for a sense of detachment in order to function as a professional, but we are not talking about climate, we’re talking about human beings.

I’ve read similar descriptions by Nazi “doctors” of their “medical procedures” done on people (adults and children) for experimental purposes. The sense you pick up from these descriptions is that these human beings were merely “subjects” with no names, no moral value, no humanity - just “things”.

As I said, it’s just my perception. Not saying it is the right perception or that anyone else must agree with me.

[James C. Bennett]

Around the same period, Europe was hardly any less barbaric, with the soon-to-come slaughters of the members of the new religion of Protestantism by the Catholic incumbents, reprisal killings in revenge going vice-versa, the witch hunts, the
Inquisition, all of which saw unparalleled bloodshed.

The Thirty Years War saw fighting between Catholics and Protestants resulting in close to 11 million deaths. And then you had the Second Thirty Years War (a.k.a WW-1 and WW-2). From hindsight, Christian Europe was a killing field for almost all of its entire history, with death tolls in the millions occurring frequently, if not often. The post-1945 situation there up to today is probably the most peaceful period Europe has ever known.

http://necrometrics.com/pre1700a.htm#30YrW

The Thirty Years War (1618-48) 

• Population Loss
  • R.J. Rummel: 11.5M total deaths in the war (half democides)
  • Norman Davies, Europe, p.568: 8 million
  • Richard Dunn, The Age of Religious Wars 1559-1715: After the war, the empire was 7-8 million fewer than before
  • C.V. Wedgwood, The Thirty Years War (1938): "The old legend that the population dropped from sixteen to four million people, rests on imagination: both figures are incorrect. The German Empire, including Alsace but excluding the Netherlands and Bohemia, probably numbered about twenty-one millions in 1618, and rather less than thirteen and a half millions in 1648. [A loss of 7½ million.] Certain authorities believe that the loss was less, but these are for the most part writers of a militaristic epoch, anxious to destroy the ugly scarecrow which throws so long a shadow over the glorious past."
  • Alan McFarlane, The Savage Wars of Peace: England, Japan and the Malthusian Trap (2003): Population of Germany went from 21M to13.5M. [a loss of 7.5M]
  • John Landers, The Field and the Forge, p.352: 5-6m
  • Geoffrey Parker, The Thirty Years War (New York: Routledge, 1984, 1997) p.188: “Earlier estimates that the war destroyed half or two-thirds of the German population are no longer accepted. More recent estimates are much more conservative, suggesting that the population of the Holy Roman Empire may have declined by about 15 to 20 per cent, from some 20 million before the war to about 16 or 17 million after it.” [a loss of 3 or 4 million]
  • Colin McEvedy, Atlas of World Population History (1978)
    • "Germany" [modern boundaries] p.68: 2M fewer.
    • "Czechoslovakia" [1978 boundaries] p.84-85: decline from 4.5m to 3.75m [.75m fewer]
  • MEDIAN: Of the six estimates of the overall loss of population, the median is 7½M.
• Military Deaths
  • Clodfelter: "one source" estimates 350,000 k. in battle
  • Fuller, A Military History of the Western World: 350,000 k.
  • Corvisier, Dictionary of Military History and the Art of War, p.469: 600,000 military deaths.
  • Urlanis
    • K. in Battle: 180,000
    • Military. Killed and died: 600,000
  • Levy, War in the Modern Great Power System: 2,071,000 battle d.

[bboop]

‘Took place until the Spanish.’ Those Spanish/ Catholics really ruined a great civilization/ not. Must remember to fly Columbus’s flag on Monday.

[bboop]

Rusty, I’m with you. It was a description of evil without any recognition of it. Actually very disgusting.

[wjcsux]

Isn’t that special! If anyone wants to read first hand evil of huge proportions, just read “ The Conquest of Mexico “ by Prescott. Those Aztec’s were incredibly evil and possessed by some awful beliefs which simply satisfied their lust for blood.
And our elite educators criticize the evil Christians from Spain for conquoring them!

[wjcsux]

The Aztecs were very evil people who practiced human sacrafice, cannibalism and infant sacrafice to their gods.

[rawcatslyentist]

La Raza, coming soon to an American state near you.

[rawcatslyentist]

Actually IIRC there wasn’t ANY dialog other than grunting, huffing, and screaming in pain. Purely visual.