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To: null and void

Dude, your claim is that Muslims are working towards rerunning the Sepoy Mutiny. I disagreed and asked for proof.

Your “proof” is that Muslims when interrogated will refer to a “perfect day” in which all Muslims will kill as many infidels as possible.

Let us posit that this desire for a perfect day is a common, nay nearly universal, Muslim desire.

My asking for proof was with regard to whether such a perfect day has anything at all to do, in their minds, with the Sepoy Mutiny.

For which, as stated, you have still provided no proof.


50 posted on 07/01/2013 10:55:41 PM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: Sherman Logan; Chronos
My asking for proof was with regard to whether such a perfect day has anything at all to do, in their minds, with the Sepoy Mutiny.

For which, as stated, you have still provided no proof.

Fair enough. You are correct in that there is a difference between what one deduces, what one knows and what one can prove. Ask OJ Simpson!

I can, and do, make the case that some active militant combatants are in fact aware of the uprising and seek to emulate it in today's world.

I further make the case that in today's world, with it's universal dependency on astonishingly few critical infrastructure choke points and its heavy dependence on foreign workers from muslim is ripe for a planed coordinated attack.

If you don't look at this through a civilian mindset and instead look at it with a military eye the view abruptly changes.

Any determined foe would study previous examples, note that I'm talking about the ummah's equivalent of active duty military, cadre and command structure, not every muslim 'on the arab street' they, like our military and war colleges see the world through a different prism. If they have done this they can't help but to have studied the unsuccessful Sepoy rebellion, the French and American revolutions, any number of peasant uprisings, and the successful attacks on Huế, and how the American Indians lost and the Maori didn't.

Most of the people who pray at your local mosque are as blissfully ignorant of this as most people who pray at your local church or football stadium are ignorant of our military and government's true capabilities and plans.

But there are a few, 1%? 5%? 10%? 30%? pick a number. who are here with the capability the training and the desire to utterly destroy The Great Satan, and this goal is so big, so noble, so full of glory and importance, that no amount of collateral damage is too great to make them back off.

If the cost of removing The Great Satan, and clearing the way to to remove The Little Satan from earth is the a backlash where every muslim in America is murdered by their enraged neighbors, well *shrug* insha'allah, they all become martyrs and go to paradise.

What happens if all 40 of this countries oil refineries burn in a single night? What happens if the ISO operators respond to false readings on their instruments and burn out even 1/10 of the generators and transformers in our electrical infrastructure? The SCADA controllers on our systems aren't any more immune to a Stuxnet type attack than were the controllers on Iran's centrifuges, far less so, in fact. Suppose the California Aqueduct, the Colorado River Aqueduct, the Delaware Aqueduct and the Catskill Aqueduct were all breached in a single night. Lets see. I'm up to hmmm... Teams of 3-5 at each refinery (200), a group of maybe a dozen or two programers familiar with SCADA and the ISO control system (24), 4 sapper teams of say 10 (40), and the support group about 3x the front line call it 1000 jihadists.

It took 20 jihadists to down both of the twin towers and damage the Pentagon on one sunny day, and that was an unsuccessful attack. They missed the Capitol, and there were a number of reports of swarthy men simply walking away from their grounded airplanes and fading into the woodwork.

That was an unsuccessful attack, from it we got the TSA, Homeland Security, snap city-wide martial law declarations to catch a single terrorist, and PRISM.

What would a successful attack do?

BTW, we have about 3 million muslims here now, and the obama administration is preferentially importing them as fast as they can. (The latest batch is Syrian "refugees".) 1% of that is 30,000. Compare that to my back of the envelope guess of 1000 needed to soft kill NYC and LA.

After reading Chronos' thoughtful replies, perhaps we are not so far apart as I originally thought.

57 posted on 07/02/2013 8:41:47 AM PDT by null and void (Republicans create the tools of oppression, and the democrats gleefully use them!)
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