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To: jmacusa
What I find ‘’ridiculous’’ here are people who claim to be conservatives but are always venerating a bunch of Dixiecrats. Davis was no fire eater? With defeat staring him the face and the Confederacy collapsing around him Davis wanted to go on fighting. Lincoln wanted it over.

I actually find it irritating that I am put into a position of appearing to defend those bastards, but the fact remains that Lincoln used extra legal methods to exert his will on that group of people, and as a result we've had to live with an excessive Federal government ever since.

It may be that we live in the best of all possible outcomes, but it occurs to me that it might have been possibly better if 600,000 people didn't have to die as a result of that arrogant pissing contest which got out of control.

The Federal Government is out of control, and as I look back in History while trying to figure out how we got here, the arrows keep pointing to Lincoln as the beginning of our Modern day Federal Leviathan. That it was being used at the time to beat up a lot of really bad people doesn't change the fact that it is currently being used to beat up a lot of decent people now.

104 posted on 09/24/2012 8:36:17 PM PDT by DiogenesLamp (Partus Sequitur Patrem)
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To: DiogenesLamp

Slavery and secession was an arrogant pissing contest which got out of control’’? Interesting take on it. I’m no fan of this current administration but I love my country. As far as ‘’Federal Leviathan’ that would seem to me to be the Democrats(Dems again) under Roosevelt and his New Deal’’ government socialism and LBJ with his ‘’Great Society ‘’ which created the modern day welfare plantation.


108 posted on 09/24/2012 8:47:43 PM PDT by jmacusa (Political correctness is cultural Marxism. I'm not a Marxist.)
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To: DiogenesLamp
That it was being used at the time to beat up a lot of really bad people

F U very much.

135 posted on 09/25/2012 3:32:43 AM PDT by central_va ( I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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