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To: butterdezillion
The way I understood it, there were four regional Registrars, and from these the birth certificates were forwarded to the Hawaii Department of Health in batches. The batches were checked and numbered by the HDOH in order of their birth-times...but as there were always more births at Kapiolani, by the time the (four on that particular day)Wahiawa births were entered, the numbers had to be out of sequence.

The Local Registrar for the region that included the Wahiawa hospital was Verna Lee. No doubt she would have assembled her batches of certificates in order of birth, but by the time her batch was checked and entered at the HDOH - ALL of any previous batch from say Kapiolani would have been numbered.

Thus it seems to me, the certificate for Virginia could NOT have been numbered according to the birth TIME of ALL the regional birth certificates.

The death certificate shows her name as that of her father. Obviously she was transferred to another hospital (Kapiolani?) before she was named. Her birth was recorded under the name of her father. But a birth certificate must have been raised. Because it was AMENDED to the name VIRGINIA dated and initialled 8/29/61.

Her death announcement appeared in a Hawaii newspaper August 8, 1961 iirc. The dates quoted in the announcements were Birth August 4. Death August 5.

It would seem a birth certificate was raised for Virginia for her August 4 birthdate - but a new number was provided when the name was amended two weeks later, during which time 439 babies were born and issued with birth certificates in Hawaii.

So what happened to her original certificate number?

butter, I'm thinking you might be able to make this more clear than how I have written this...it's always bugged me. If there's a ledger entry of some kind in which ALL the numbers are recorded, what is the entry for 10641?

70 posted on 09/19/2012 3:14:40 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (FAIR DINKUM!)
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To: Fred Nerks

So Duncan was able to get a Long Form Death Certificate but not a long form birth certificate?


86 posted on 09/20/2012 10:49:32 AM PDT by 4Zoltan
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