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To: fabian
Affirmative action salvation~ when you have not found nor even believe the true power of what Jesus did for the world; to have total freedom over sin...

Let me ask you this, fabian, what is YOUR definition of "sin"? You claim you are free from it, you never do it, and anyone who is a "real" Christian is sinless as well. So it really begs the question, what is sin? Do we go by the Bible's (Jesus') definition or Roy Masters' or yours? Really, what is the standard for saying what is or is not sin? I think this would help in understanding what exactly you are trying to propose here.

452 posted on 09/27/2012 9:19:10 PM PDT by boatbums (God is ready to assume full responsibility for the life wholly yielded to Him.)
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To: boatbums

Well, firstly there was pride from which the original sin entered...Adam wanting more than what the Father offered and believing the devil’s lies. Then came denial and blaming Eve...she gave me the apple.
So when our sin nature, or pride nature...man playing God which I had plenty of, is cleansed away, there simply is left only the desire to do right in each moment. No more annoyances which build up into anger and rage. Not that those irritations and impatiences do not come to mind at times, but somehow there is the power to allow them to pass. The bible says aptly, “through patience possess ye your souls”. There in is the key and is very much the center of forgiveness and what Roy teaches. Because along with pride, is the resentments in order to try to assuage our guilt for being a bit separate from God. Anger makes the world turn around and most people operate with those little irritations as an energy source. The more we let those pass, the more we notice and feel God’s love and kindness/ strength move us. Then it becomes more and more natural to treat others as we would like them to treat us, which Jesus said is the core of the law; as well as loving our God with all of our hearts and souls. That is the long answer but pretty accurate.

For me now, that is a way of life and after living like 7 years in a deep depression and almost killing myself, I am so happy and free, much like when I was very young. I have been given the gift of freedom, but I am a servant of the most wonderful now and never would want anything else because there is nothing like it! All of my former drug usage, pornography addiction, weakness to appease people, over eating, all of it was for pleasure...but they all pale in comparison to the joy that God gives me daily. My life honestly feels like a constant vacation even when I am working. I do get physically tired at times, but the happiness is ever present. No cause to worry ever too, because it just is taken away whenever it appears at all in my mind. And all of this is not an effort at all for me. It is a gift for my praying silently daily for many many years and for not judging as I used to very much so. Jesus did tell us judge not lest ye be judged..so this is a stipulation in order to be given the gift...but He gives us the power to do that.


454 posted on 09/27/2012 9:52:09 PM PDT by fabian (" And a new day will dawn for those who stand long, and the forests will echo with laughter"you min)
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