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To: daniel1212

Is the bible alive with the spirit itself? Of course not...it is a book. If God wanted us to base our lives on a book He would have made certain that it could not be altered. Yet we know there are many mistranslation, slight as they seem, and the King James version...much was taken away. It is the holy spirit that is our base of life because it is the direct link to God. Why is that so hard for you to get?


332 posted on 09/25/2012 8:50:30 AM PDT by fabian (" And a new day will dawn for those who stand long, and the forests will echo with laughter"you min)
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To: fabian; daniel1212

easy now fabie, repeat after your master masters ooooooomg, oooooooomg.


334 posted on 09/25/2012 9:54:17 AM PDT by Godzilla (3/7/77)
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To: fabian; Tuanedge; Springfield Reformer; boatbums; Godzilla; metmom; greyfoxx39

Fabian, listen to yourself. You are neglecting the Bible as the holy Word of God because of translations, which do not necessarily change the doctrinal meaning, and textual analysis, which you reject, enables us to see errors translational faults, while you replace the Bible as the holy word with your holy revelations from your subjective experiences, which are not subject to proof by anything!

Thus your constant refrain when confronted with Scriptural refutation, is that we are not esoterically enlightened as you! Nor as explained, is that what is meant by the spirit versus the letter.

And indeed the Bible itself is holy, sanctified, set apart, though it uses common paper, for as shown, even unbelieving spouses and family are sanctified due to the presence of one believer. (1Cor. 7:14) And thus the Temple was also holy, due to what it contained, though only made of earthly elements.

And the Word of God is alive, (Heb. 4:12) and the Scriptures are the assured, established Word of God, being wholly God-breathed by the Holy Spirit, (2Tim. 3:16) thus that which provides the word of God is alive by the Spirit. And thus Jesus and the apostles abundantly quoted from the written word, (including from a translation). See http://peacebyjesus.witnesstoday.org/Bible/2Tim_3.html#Partial

“The law of the Lord is perfect, converting the soul: the testimony of the Lord is sure, making wise the simple. The statutes of the Lord are right, rejoicing the heart: the commandment of the Lord is pure, enlightening the eyes. “ (Psalms 19:7-8)

And it was by Scriptural substantiation that the itinerant Preacher from Galilee established His clams, as did the apostles, while Masters is a false apostle.

Nor was anything taken away, despite Da Vince code theorists (http://peacebyjesus.witnesstoday.org/thedavincicode.html), but the Divine writings became established as being of God due to their unique Heavenly qualities and conflation with what was prior established as from God (even though the church of Rome historically largely hindered literacy and free access to Scripture), while the rest remained relative obscure.

As for Masters, he is much akin to other cultists (from J. Smith to Eugene Swedenborg) who likewise made similar elitist esoteric claims, and which discernment is what we “get.”


358 posted on 09/25/2012 7:17:45 PM PDT by daniel1212 (Come to the Lord Jesus as a contrite damned+destitute sinner, trust Him to save you, then live 4 Him)
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