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To: boatbums

I have already explained my points well...why don’t you open your eyes? And I do not speak for Roy Masters. Once again, it is very attainable to love JESUS AND BECOME FREE OF SIN JUST AS HE COMMANDED mary to go and sin no more...clear as day that was. But the apostacy teaches that Jesus was God, making all that more unattainable to live sin free as he did since after all who could actually do that other than God? You guys are really missing the boat. My life is free of sin and fear and yours could be too if you would stop denying the power of what Jesus and God accomplished.


283 posted on 09/22/2012 9:00:59 PM PDT by fabian (" And a new day will dawn for those who stand long, and the forests will echo with laughter"you min)
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To: fabian
I have already explained my points well...why don’t you open your eyes? And I do not speak for Roy Masters. Once again, it is very attainable to love JESUS AND BECOME FREE OF SIN JUST AS HE COMMANDED mary to go and sin no more...clear as day that was. But the apostacy teaches that Jesus was God, making all that more unattainable to live sin free as he did since after all who could actually do that other than God? You guys are really missing the boat. My life is free of sin and fear and yours could be too if you would stop denying the power of what Jesus and God accomplished.

How is it that we are "missing the boat"? I do not deny the power of what Jesus who IS God accomplished. Where you are missing the boat is in stating that sinless perfection is attainable in the flesh - it isn't. The ONLY way Jesus could live a TRULY sinless life so that he could offer that life upon the cross to make atonement for sin is because he IS God. We have already listed the Scripture passages that attest to this - the words of the OT prophets, Jesus' OWN words and those of the NT writers ALL state clearly that he IS God in the flesh.

Does God desire that we live holy lives? Of course! Does he empower us to live for him in victory? Yes! But will we still struggle with sins of commission and omission? YES! We are not yet made perfect on this earth in this body of flesh - though we have a spirit nature that desires to and lives for God and we are clothed in the righteousnes of Christ so that when God looks at us, He sees the perfect sinlessness of Christ. That is why God tells us in Scripture that we have an advocate with the Father - Jesus Christ the righteous. Now why would we need an advocate if we could be sinless? What need would we have for someone to make intercession for us as the Holy Spirit does if we had no need for such? Why were we given instructions for confession to God - who is faithful to forgive us our sins and cleanse us from ALL unrighteousness - if He intended us to be able to live without such needs?

But thank you for finally stating what the TRUE reason is for the denial of the deity of Jesus Christ. According to Masters, and you, Jesus was a man who attained perfect holiness and so can we. Right? You say that if Jesus was God and THAT was why he could be sinless, then living a sinless life is "unattainable" for mere men. Right? So how do you explain these Scripture passages:

But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us. (Romans 5:8)

I do not frustrate the grace of God: for if righteousness come by the law, then Christ is dead in vain. (Galatians 2:21)

Therefore by the deeds of the law there shall no flesh be justified in his sight: for by the law is the knowledge of sin. But now the righteousness of God without the law is manifested, being witnessed by the law and the prophets; Even the righteousness of God which is by faith of Jesus Christ unto all and upon all them that believe: for there is no difference: For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God; Being justified freely by his grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus: Whom God hath set forth to be a propitiation through faith in his blood, to declare his righteousness for the remission of sins that are past, through the forbearance of God; To declare, I say, at this time his righteousness: that he might be just, and the justifier of him which believeth in Jesus. Where is boasting then? It is excluded. By what law? of works? Nay: but by the law of faith. Therefore we conclude that a man is justified by faith without the deeds of the law. (Romans 3:20-28)

It is clear from Scripture that we are NOT saved, born again, because we have attained perfection and sinlessness, but because of God's grace that he gifts to us. We are JUSTIFIED by faith and NOT by our works, or our good deeds, or our sinless living. This, dear Fabian, is the GOSPEL. The good news - that's what "gospel" means. We don't achieve sinlessness by any works that we do - we CANNOT attain sinlessness because we have ALL sinned and come short of the glory of God (Rom. 3:23) Being saved is impossible for anyone to attain outside of the free gift of God's saving grace. The "wages of sin is death", Romans 6:23) says. God requires BLOOD to make atonement for sin (Leviticus 7:11), and ONLY blood. That means death pays the penalty for sin. Do you at least admit that you HAVE sinned? Will you agree that you are a sinner and that you accept the grace of God to save you from the penalty of your sins? Unless you have done this, you are STILL dead in your sins. You may believe you no longer sin, but your past sins require atonement - and Jesus is our redeemer, he is the Lamb of God that takes away the sins of the world.

The life I now lead I live by faith in Christ, he has freed me from the eternal punishment for my sins by his shed blood. I cannot save myself, you can't, nobody can. Without Christ, who died in our stead, we would ALL still be dead in our sins, without hope in this world. The power of what Jesus accomplished is that we have been redeemed, we have been saved, we have been made righteous, justified and sanctified by the precious blood of Christ. We do not attain this by what WE do for God. We receive God's grace through faith and we live by that same grace as he empowers us to live victoriously in Christ. It is SO much more than mere humans can accomplish. I pray that you will see your way through to this realization, that you do not allow pride to prevent you from accepting Christ as your Lord and Savior.

There is no fear in love: but perfect love casteth out fear, because fear hath punishment; and he that feareth is not made perfect in love. (I John 4:18)

284 posted on 09/22/2012 10:08:55 PM PDT by boatbums (God is ready to assume full responsibility for the life wholly yielded to Him.)
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