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To: Why So Serious

Activists know that they could have civil unions pretty easily, what they want is the word “marriage”, so as to destroy it.

You want to destroy “marriage” as well, making government civil unions (which would merely replace marriage) the norm, and allowing “marriage” to fade into obscurity as it becomes a little religious ceremony for some, in their individual churches, something for personal consumption only, but not applicable to society at large.

You legalize homosexual marriage and polygamy either way in your proposal.

Libertarians are leftists who are attacking our culture and society, and morality using a different name.


10 posted on 09/08/2012 9:18:38 AM PDT by ansel12 ( Aug. 27, 2012-Mitt Romney said his views on abortion are more lenient than the Republican Platform)
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To: ansel12

Paint w/ a broad stroke much?

Libertarians only wish to get gov’t out of the things it has NO business being in...marriage being one. Leave marriage to those as religious based institutions and civil unions for anything else.

Stable family unit, all fine and dandy, but gov’t has made some animals more equal than others (tax credits, etc.). (Living) Wills and contracts should hold for all taxes, inheritance, etc. - again, get Gov’t OUT.

And, since they can’t procreate anyway, why worry about gay unions? There’s enough reason to fret these days about the ease of divorce in ‘normal’ couples than the fringe. Now, adoption, that’s a whole new argument.


14 posted on 09/08/2012 9:27:03 AM PDT by i_robot73
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To: ansel12
Activists know that they could have civil unions pretty easily, what they want is the word “marriage”, so as to destroy it.

You want to destroy “marriage” as well, making government civil unions (which would merely replace marriage) the norm, and allowing “marriage” to fade into obscurity as it becomes a little religious ceremony for some, in their individual churches, something for personal consumption only, but not applicable to society at large.

You legalize homosexual marriage and polygamy either way in your proposal.

Libertarians are leftists who are attacking our culture and society, and morality using a different name.

Really? I have been married for 22 years. I started dating my wife in 1978 at the age of 16, we got married in 1990 at the age of 28 and today we are 50. Do you really believe that the government and its marriage thing had something to do with it. You sound like Barack Obama .. Julie and I did not create this marriage ... government created it!!! And if government allowed civil unions some how my wife and my marriage will become something other than what it is now. If you think that, I feel sorry for your spouse. I guess you love your spouse because government marriage mandates it.

27 posted on 09/08/2012 9:46:28 AM PDT by Why So Serious (There is no cure for stupidity!!!)
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To: ansel12

I agree with you 100%, and you expressed the essence of this issue perfectly: “
“Libertarians are leftists who are attacking our culture and society, and morality using a different name.”
And that is why I loathe Libertarians more than the Dems - at least the Dems stay on their own side of the room and don’t pretend to be part of our movement.


29 posted on 09/08/2012 9:48:56 AM PDT by kabumpo (Kabumpo)
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To: ansel12
Libertarians are leftists who are attacking our culture and society, and morality using a different name.

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I agree 100%!

147 posted on 09/08/2012 4:05:22 PM PDT by stillonaroll (Nominate a non-RINO in 2012!...uh, too late, never mind.)
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To: ansel12

I want it as a simple declaration without the government.

No contract, no deduction on my 1040, Nada.

We stood before a crowd of those who love us and some who wish for our failure said “I do”.

We left on the bond of our word and had a honeymoon.

Skip the government.

Damnit. I’m tire of typing, making mistakes and this is really starting to hurt shoulder.

I probably won’t be back on for the rest of the day. Maybe tonight.


229 posted on 09/09/2012 6:45:44 AM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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