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As a home brewer who brews both beer and cider, I found this fascinating.

In particular, it is interesting that there is a suggestion that brewing alcoholic beverages was in part a way to fight cholera and other water-born maladies.

Not sure who is running the home brew ping list...

1 posted on 09/05/2012 3:10:09 AM PDT by djf
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Perry, a cider made from pears, is positively etherial.


42 posted on 09/05/2012 4:42:26 AM PDT by Oratam
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Growing and harvesting grain became much, much cheaper with mechanization.

Growing and picking apples remained labor intensive.

Storage of apples also became more feasible.

Free market at work.


45 posted on 09/05/2012 4:50:26 AM PDT by SampleMan (Feral Humans are the refuse of socialism.)
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How Beer Saved the World.

Great flick, catch it on netflix if you can.

50 posted on 09/05/2012 5:04:34 AM PDT by Paradox (I want Obama defeated. Period.)
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“Rumors of apple tree blights and diseases that killed the orchards and forced people to switch to beer are not backed up by any evidence.”

The author of this piece is incompetent.

Proper cider requires “bittersharp” and “bitter” apples (i.e., apples with a high tannin content). The tannins give body to the cider, and balance the sweetness of the alcohol. All of the bitter and bittersharp apples of which I am familiar are HIGHLY susceptible to fireblight, and most are susceptible to apple scab as well. In the U.S. it is difficult to grow them anywhere but the pacific coast states. It was, indeed, disease that killed off cider.

I’m a cider lover and an orchardist, and I’d be growing my own cider apples if I could.


53 posted on 09/05/2012 5:21:48 AM PDT by Renfield (Turning apples into venison since 1999!)
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I made hard cider once, broke the rules, and it still worked great. All you need is a cheap mini-refrigerator, in an outside closet or laundry room, unless you want your home to reek of fermenting apple.

I set the mini-fridge to 60F, then found an open plastic tub small enough to fit inside, filled it with apple juice and a couple of cups of table sugar, stirred. Then I closed the door and ignored it for a couple of weeks, checking every now and then just to see.

At a particular point, it tasted alcohol-y, so I turned the temperature of the fridge down to hard freeze. After a day, there was a big block of apple-water-and sludge ice on the bottom, and I could pour off the cider.

It worked! Got about a pint or so from a gallon or more of apple juice.


60 posted on 09/05/2012 5:35:56 AM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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Good article. Thanks for posting!


67 posted on 09/05/2012 6:12:56 AM PDT by Sawdring
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brewing alcoholic beverages was in part a way to fight cholera and other water-born maladies

You need to read:

70 posted on 09/05/2012 6:24:38 AM PDT by ctdonath2 ($1 meals: http://abuckaplate.blogspot.com)
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I can highly recommend Woodchuck draft cider available in the grocery or liquor store case. We drink it all the time.


72 posted on 09/05/2012 6:34:46 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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Relevant tangent:

Beak & Skiff apple orchard in central NY opened a distillery, and makes a very nice apple vodka. Not "apple flavored vodka", but a good straight clean vodka made from apples (with just a hint thereof).


73 posted on 09/05/2012 6:35:51 AM PDT by ctdonath2 ($1 meals: http://abuckaplate.blogspot.com)
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George Costanza is reported to be a hard cider kind of guy.


75 posted on 09/05/2012 6:39:43 AM PDT by Larry Lucido (Romney/Ryan 2012)
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Wow. I LOVE hard cider. I’ve been drinking Strongbow’s on hot summer afternoons because it’s not sweet like Woodchuck. Very refreshing—delightful.


76 posted on 09/05/2012 6:43:01 AM PDT by ottbmare (The OTTB Mare)
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I used to be able to get hard cider when I lived in Iowa, oddly at the old state run liquor stores. It was made in Missouri and was the traditional hard cider, not the carbonated stuff like Woodchuck or Angry Orchard. However, I haven't seen it in any liquor stores in more than 10 years.

Hard cider makes an excellent hot buttered rum. Heat the cider and some brown sugar in a microwave...careful not to boil off the alcohol. Add to a mug with some Jamaican rum and a pat of real butter. Two of those and you don't care if it's 20 below and snowing.

77 posted on 09/05/2012 6:49:18 AM PDT by The Great RJ (w)
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“As a home brewer who brews both beer and cider, I found this fascinating.”

Have you (or anyone else on this ping list) posted links to good recipes or recipes of your own for making hard cider at home? I’d be interested in reading them and giving one of them a try.


78 posted on 09/05/2012 7:12:25 AM PDT by Brandybux (Oportet ministros manus lavare antequam latrinam relinquent.)
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i disagree, in the staunch beer city of St Paul, every bar has hard cider available and usually on tap. Perhaps its the Irish roots of the cities. I will drink cider on a hot day before i ever reach for a beer, just a bit more refreshing IMHO.


79 posted on 09/05/2012 7:13:17 AM PDT by Docbarleypop
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As a youth, I remember the signs posted in several of the local pizza joints in Connecticut:

“The consumption of alcoholic products other than beer or cider is prohibited on these premises.”

I had wondered why none of these pizza parlours offered cider as a drink.


83 posted on 09/05/2012 8:02:59 AM PDT by Dr. Sivana ("I love to watch you talk talk talk, but I hate what I hear you say."-Del Shannon)
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To: djf; Big Giant Head

Sounds like a fun project!


95 posted on 09/05/2012 10:22:12 AM PDT by Marie Antoinette (:)
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To: djf; Big Giant Head

Sounds like a fun project!


96 posted on 09/05/2012 10:22:24 AM PDT by Marie Antoinette (:)
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It’s changed now. Lots of ciders out there.


113 posted on 12/30/2016 6:54:53 PM PST by SamAdams76
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