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To: Kartographer

More sincerely to all:

If things get so bad that many are really starving (which I doubt, given our agricultural capacities and preparedness), it might be wisest to concentrate more on supporting yourselves than on violence. Granted, there are those of you near relatively more dangerous populations, but even those areas are home to many conservative, decent Americans (believe it or not—been there). They only have higher percentages of violent criminals.

Many of you would lose your incomes from government at the end of a complete default process (might happen) and should be focusing more on having all of the necessities to get through a long, poor spell. I know that very few are really all that well prepared for being out of work and having mortgages foreclosed. It’s wise to save.

As for starving masses, they would be starving...and weak. But this ain’t Egypt. Grow something, or store some food. Self-defense, yes. Always be prepared for that necessity. But don’t plan on firing through the neighbors’ houses with high-speed rounds. That would have terrible consequences. There will always be those who will find ways to support the law and lawmen.

As for the often-mentioned “martial law,” it’s not so bad. I’ve lived under it (the UCMJ), as have many others. It really has some advantages. And the National Guard will not come to steal your food (also often mentioned). Even if the National Guard had an evil twin (as seen on TV), there wouldn’t be any profit in traveling all the way to some house (like mine, in the middle of nowhere) to steal food from it. Fuel and time would be too precious.

As for politics, if you don’t believe that voting will help, starve the beast. Stop buying so many toys and so much junk for entertainment (generates big revenues/debt). Become more self-sufficient. Learn to produce something useful as a hobby. Might need a business after the end of the world (little humor there).


41 posted on 09/04/2012 11:33:02 AM PDT by familyop ("Wanna cigarette? You're never too young to start." --Deacon, "Waterworld")
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To: familyop

If things get so bad that many are really starving (which I doubt, given our agricultural capacities and preparedness), it might be wisest to concentrate more on supporting yourselves than on violence.


Truth is, most modern Americans havent’ the slightest idea of how to grow their own food. Although an informed individual could easily survive off the land, most lack the knowledge as to how to feed themselves from natures pantry (a good friend referred to this phenomenon as “idiots starving to death in a grocery store”).

Unfortunately, most of our food supply is trucked in from other locations. In the SHTF scenario, I wouldn’t count on any trucks running with basic supplies/staples for a long time.

As for violence, you may more concerned with supporting yourself but others will be intent on violence. They will give you no choice.


42 posted on 09/04/2012 2:42:26 PM PDT by Rides_A_Red_Horse (If there is a war on women, the Kennedys are the Spec Ops troops.)
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To: familyop
As for politics, if you don’t believe that voting will help, starve the beast. Stop buying so many toys and so much junk for entertainment (generates big revenues/debt).

That has been one of my biggest accomplishments of the past six years, other than my role in my family and in my church. My taxable income is down more than 90% by choice. I refuse to feed the beast more than is useful for our country.

45 posted on 09/04/2012 4:17:49 PM PDT by Pollster1 (Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. - Ronald Reagan)
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To: familyop

“As for the often-mentioned “martial law,” it’s not so bad. I’ve lived under it (the UCMJ), as have many others.”

Uh, that’s “Military Law.”

“Martial Law” is something different.


49 posted on 09/04/2012 4:57:26 PM PDT by PLMerite (Shut the Beyotch Down! Burn, baby, burn!)
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