Posted on 08/30/2012 11:48:58 PM PDT by W.C.S.
The Convention is where delegates are meant to cast votes for the nominee, yet the Tampa Bay Times Forum was already plastered with embedded Romney banners, and additional 'Mitt' signs for people to hold were also smuggled in to make it appear that many are behind him. All Ron Paul material was promptly confiscated.
Six states filed to put Ron Paul into nomination while the rules still said it only took five states. Realizing this, the RNC met early Tuesday morning to change the rules in order to make the minimum needed as eight states, which Ron also would have had if the RNC had not decided to take the Ron Paul delegates away from LA and ME. One bus of delegates on the way to the RNC was essentially kidnapped for two hours, and arrived too late to vote on the matter said the RNC.
Rather than taking proper vote counts or listening to objections, several votes were clearly not unanimous, but this didn't stop the RNC "leaders" from ignoring the dissent. Video surfaced just after this video published, but a link is in the video showing that the teleprompter already had pre-approved results before the public vote was taken. Ron Paul's name and delegate totals were not allowed to be mentioned officially on the stage, even when he won the specific state.
The Republican Party has lost all hope, and the disrespect Paul supporters received will eventually be replied with "I told you so."
designed to quieten conservatives
Ron Paul would probably make a fairly decent president if there were no such thing as other countries.....
Gotcha. I see what you mean. It’s the Republican establishment making a huge power play. Ron Paul supporters were the first to be visibly affected by it, so of course they’re going to speak up.
I really don’t know why you guys need to throw all these insults at Ron Paul and his supporters at the convention in this thread, or why some posters even decided to attack me, just for posting this. I don’t agree with Ron Paul on his foreign policy. Neither do most Freepers. He is against the Republican establishment, though, which you just saw in action. It troubles me that there is so much opposition to the Republican party establishment and their choice of candidate(Romney), yet when someone offers an alternative, you side with the media and marginalize him as a pot-smoker’s candidate.
I know you may dismiss this as another delusional supporter’s ravings, but hear me out. Where I’m from, it’s fashionable in young circles, both libertarian and Republican, to support Ron Paul. Ron Paul’s libertarian platform purely involves limiting the power and actions of the Federal government. He offers to give rights back to the states, something I know has a lot of support on this site. Here is someone who opposes the neocon Republican establishment, stuff like the Patriot Act and the NDAA that infringe on constitutional rights. But I point out one unethical act from the Republican establishment, and suddenly you accuse me of being a closet Obama supporter?
It’s ironic that after this site decided to oppose Romney for being a RINO, I mention a candidate who actually opposes Romney’s policies and who is actually honest and consistent in his voting record in Congress, and suddenly it’s all about smearing mud over someone who the media already ignores, and who has already lost. One of the original actions of the Tea Party was to throw out RINOs. Romney is a flip-flopper and a “professional politician” who has officially been pointed out as such by the Free Republic staff. Paul Ryan does not have a clean slate, either. He supports fiscal conservatism, and I support him on that, but he also voted in favor of the Patriot Act and NDAA, which I know have drawn a lot of flak from the crowd concerned about Obama declaring martial law to avoid getting removed from office. So go figure...
Ron Paul is a good man, and I respect him a lot. I’d be a “Paulbot” if not for his foreign policy and the amount of time he’s been in Congress.
I’m a Libertarian, but not the crazy kind. If it were up to me the federal govt would be based out of the pentagon, all of it. Whatever couldn’t fit, we wouldn’t have.
We would also have term limits. No more than 8 years in ANY federal office, in a lifetime. If politicians knew they couldn’t run for reelection, it would give them more time to actually WORK.
As for Mitt, he won’t get my vote, I won’t settle again, I’ve had to do that to many times.
“I really don’t know why you guys need to throw all these insults at Ron Paul and his supporters at the convention in this thread,”
Ask Ron Paul “truther” and buddy of Alex Jones to answer that one.
Also, ask him why he voted to allow homosexuals to openly serve in the military?
Paul had to adapt himself to the Kooks that embraced him, because that was all he had. I don’t think he likes it particularly, I’m sure he’d much rather be embraced by a more mainstream element, but that’s all he’s got now.
You’re probably right. I do wish Romney and his peeps could find a spot for him, a visible spot, because Paul could bring in a ton of the college vote, and he needs all he can get. I think young people like Paul more than obama right now.
I also note that you have no response to what bd476 pointed out about your video.
Namely the “Collective Checkup” communist group.
“And what have you done for the FReepathons lately?”
I have NOT posted extra large pictures for wasting expensive bandwith.
Once is ok, but twice in the same post, come on!
You want me to lighten up, I wasn’t talking to you!
” I wasn’t talking to you!”
Amazing thing about public web forums, anyone can respond.
Truly amazing, isn’t it?
You did the equivalent of shouting at a team member in a crowded room, one who has done a great deal to SUPPORT Free Republic rather than just mouth off.
It was NOT wasted space and it WAS eye-catching with factual information that other posters needed to see.
Try addressing what the posts revealed rather than taking aim at the messenger.
I didn’t ask you what you did not do. That is a very odd answer.
If you attack a friend of mine, you will get an eyeful from me. I don’t care to whom you were talking.
Let me clarify. I know that there are a very small minority of Communists among Ron Paul supporters who support him because he would “change the system”. I am not one of those. I despise Communism and everything that it stands for, as do most other Ron Paul supporters.
The Collective Checkup website and youtube channels are not openly Communist at all, as far as I can tell. They may have a left-wing slant, but they seem to mostly be reporting political issues and fiascos. Whoever made the video may have chosen a poor person to interview. Or perhaps the quote from the Code Pinko was from elsewhere, but was nevertheless relevant to the events. But a left-winger reporting on an event does not automatically invalidate the entirety of what happened.
Noticing your other posts, you seem to have decided to make utterly unfounded personal attacks against me, claiming that I am “whining” and that I don’t know what “conservatism” is. I believe in freedom and tradition. I believe that this current economy is in terrible condition, and it is imperative that we turn this country around. I want a candidate who will stick to his principles. Unfortunately, the party elite wants a professional politician, and I am merely trying to expose how they are willing to get their way at all costs, even by unethical means.
My conservatism is something that I have developed and honed over many years. I am a paleoconservative. I joined this site as spokesman for Youth For Western Civilization, a former student group intended to oppose cultural marxism and mass immigration. We have disbanded at this point. The left-wing establishment relentlessly demonized us, and denied us sponsorship on one of our main campuses. The hard right is continually treated as the greatest evil in existence by the left through false, utterly unfounded, and half-libelous accusations of “KKK” “Neo-Nazi”, or by using left-wing monikers such as “sexist” and “homophobe” to fling mud at our unshakeable belief in family values and our religious faith. Most moderates and neoconservatives have joined sides with them on this, alienating the true conservatives. They cast aside the traditional view of things held by the common man, replacing it with the left’s narrative that America was once fundamentally evil and must be saved through “progress.” The only big question between the neoconservatives and Obama’s supporters seems to be “how much progressive policies are necessary.”
If reporting unethical behavior from the supporters of a candidate that Free Republic has always opposed up until now makes me a “Paulbot”, I really don’t know what to tell you. The reason why Paul supporters are so enthusiastic, by and large, is because they have found a candidate who they can actually get behind. They have realized the broken nature of the political system, and have found someone who goes against it and is actually willing to not just say, but do. All the anger and vitriol in this thread has been AGAINST Ron Paul. I was never “whining.” I was only defending a candidate whose portrayal by the media (the normal anti-media bias) Free Republic seems to have swallowed hook, line and sinker.
Correction, final line:
“the normally anti-media-bias Free Republic”
Here ya go.
And here you go.
What do you mean here you go? I addressed some specifics that will affect future Republican nomination process and how delegates are selected. As I mentioned the RP supporters and or delegates had already been contained so what was done is obviously directed at Conservatives and Tea Partiers. I am not or have I ever been a RP supporter. I am a Conservative Republican who is also a member of a Tea Party group Who has voted Republican and Republican primaries since 1964 without ever missing an election or voting for a democrat, I have made phone calls knocked on doors and given money. I am supporting Romney with money and time. Romney and RP were tied at the bottom of my list. My concern is for the future of the nation and the Republican party. I would not have commented on this thread except for you calling me out.
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