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To: bluecat6

That may be. I’d have to take your word for it. I am not myself in a position to speak on that.


206 posted on 08/29/2012 6:22:14 AM PDT by Meet the New Boss
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To: Meet the New Boss

Here is the source of the my statements.

http://www.unhcr.org/refworld/docid/3ae6b4ec8.html

“Article 7.

(1)A foreign woman married to a citizen of the Republic of Indonesia, acquires the citizenship of the Republic of Indonesia, if and when she makes a statement as to that effect within 1 year after contracting said marriage, except in case when she acquires the citizenship of the Republic of Indonesia she possesses still another nationality, in which case the statement may not be made.

(2)With the exception as mentioned in para 1 the foreign woman who marries a citizen of the Republic of Indonesia also acquires the citizenship of the Republic of Indonesia one year after the marriage has been contracted, if within that one year her husband does not make a statement as to release his citizenship of the Republic of Indonesia.”

Key element:

the foreign woman who marries a citizen of the Republic of Indonesia also acquires the citizenship of the Republic of Indonesia one year after the marriage has been contracted, if within that one year her husband does not make a statement as to release his citizenship of the Republic of Indonesia.

Further breakdown:

the foreign woman [Stanley Ann] who marries a citizen of the Republic of Indonesia [Lolo Soetoro] also [automatically according this law] acquires the citizenship of the Republic of Indonesia one year [March 15, 1966 since they were married March 15, 1965] after the marriage has been contracted, if within that one year her husband [Lolo Soetoro] does not make a statement [that he did not] as to release his citizenship of the Republic of Indonesia [so this execption does NOT apply, thus Stanley Ann became an Indonesian citizen March 15, 1966 according to Indonesian laws in effect in 1958].

So that is the law that indicates Stanley Ann definitely WAS an Indonesian citizen according to Indonesia.

What about Obama as a young child.

“Article 2.

(1)A foreign child of less than 5 years age who is adopted by a citizen of the Republic of Indonesia acquires the citizenship of the Republic of Indonesia, if such an adoption is declared legal by the Pengadilan Negeri at the residence of the person adopting the child.

(2)Said declaration of legality by the Pengadilan Negeri shall be requested by the person adopting the child within 1 year after such an adoption or within 1 year after enforcement of this law.”

Lets break this down....

(1)A foreign child of less than 5 years age [which Obama was at the time of the marriage and at the time his mother’s citizenship would have been automatic] who is adopted by a citizen of the Republic of Indonesia [it is very likely Lolo formally adopted the young Barry. Whether outright while still in the US or as custom in Indonesia. With a mother recognized as an Indonesian citizen there would be no reason to not adopt the young Barry formally to give him all the rights of an Indonesian citizen while there.] acquires the citizenship of the Republic of Indonesia, [right there - if adopted he DOES aquire Inodnesian citizenship] if such an adoption is declared legal by the Pengadilan Negeri [Indonesian legal function] at the residence of the person adopting the child.

Supporting data points beyond laws stated above:

- Indonesia was in cold-war political turmoil in the mid-1960s. It would have been very risk for Stanley Ann and Barry to go around parading themselves as red, white and blue Americans in Indonesia. Fitting in would have been required. In fact it reasonable to be believe that Barry’s American roots may have been found out - making it too dangerous for him to stay in Indonesia. And hence his quick departure. This is speculation - granted.

- The Indonesian school records. Clearly consistent with Indonesian citizenship and father adoption.

- The 1968 removal of Barry from Stanley Ann’s US passport. Did he have his own Indonesian passport? Did he get get his own US passport? If so, why? Barry/Barack had a passport in 1968...what was it?

So please do not take my word for it. Read this and understand that legally, according to Indonesian law - child AND MOTHER were Indonesian citizens.


209 posted on 08/29/2012 6:54:48 AM PDT by bluecat6 ( "A non-denial denial. They doubt our heritage, but they don't say the story is not accurate.")
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