Posted on 08/27/2012 7:16:44 PM PDT by Perdogg
And if you find out, to whom, or to what official body, or to what individual official, do you intend to complain? Bear in mind what will happen to your lawn if you answer "The Court of Public Opinion."
if some conservatives decide to ignore the constitutional eligibility issue on the grounds that nothing is likely to come of it, that’s fine. That is a reasonable position to take. Others of us may continue to look into it.
By all means carry on ... after we get a successful ... more or less ... outcome to the election of 2012.
The fact that I think it is unlikely he will ever be impeached does not mean people should not be pushing for the truth to come out as to what the facts are and calling for disclosure of his records.
My point, just to repeat it yet again (I'm typing slowly for you) is that IF it ever came to the point where impeachment proceedings would be ventured against Obama on this basis, your defense of "ignorance" isn't going to get him far because of the lies and cover-up. The lies and the cover-up demonstrate that he knows he did something damaging to him and is akin to a "consciousness of guilt" as we like to say. It is the lies and cover-up that will turn the climate against him, and he will not get the benefit of favorable inferences from the Senate that he was innocent out of carelessness and ignorance. On the other hand, if the Congress and the American people have not reached the point where they are fed up with his lies and cover-ups, then it doesn't matter how damaging the evidence is, they won't proceed with it.
There is only one body that can act on this, at least while Obama is in office, and that is the Congress.
I readily concede that it is unlikely they will do so, either now or if Obama wins a second term.
But stranger things have happened in history.
The principle that no man should be above the law is a principle worth pursuing for its own sake, even if the odds against successfully prevailing in a particular situation are quite long.
Oh I forgot to add, I got my short and long forms in 2000 when I had my wallet stolen. My Mom ordered them. She kept my long form for me for safe keeping. I ordered the 20007 short form right after I had knee surgery. I totally don’t remember doing it, but I remember why. I didn’t want to go into the garage to hunt for my COLB in a Passport application because I had just had knee surgery. I wanted to go to BC Canada to attend the Opening of the Police Reunion tour. I had tickets to the show, and needed a passport to get back into the states after seeing it in Canada. Yeah, I have the Police Concert Tickets still. Why? Because my knee would not allow me to go, so I still have them and the FedEx envelope they came it. I explained this back in the day when it happened. I told the truth Rummy. For some reason some people either want me to be lying, or telling falsehoods of some kind. I admitted my mistakes, Fully admitted them. I have been honest, and gotten smeared for it.
My documents are not only real and authentic, they are more than anyone else has presented, with supporting documentary evidence. Yet somehow I am the one not telling the whole story? Right.
Trump has a knack of being able to stay in the limelight. If he were so concerned, he'd be offering a sizeable reward to anyone who can come up with all of Obama's college records..........
If you have not seen the movie then go see it, will help answer your question.
I have just one question. What years did your father go to the University of Hawaii?
http://www.musgroves.com/obituary.cfm?name=BrianSkelly
As for this post, I went back and looked at that thread. You had several posters calling you out on what you posted.
I can’t fathom how you got so mixed up on what you were posting
Amen. The reality and truth is......IF this birth issue was legally pursued by the Republicans, the truth would be staring us in the face and there would be no alternative but impeachment, the republucan leaders know the facts and can’t do a thing about it because......America would explode, and I mean that literally. The riots would consume us, people would die, lots of them and so would the republican party, flawed as it is, our only immediate hope. Many say, “so what, let the riots begin”. I am not ready to see my children and grandchildren live in chaos for a piece of shit imposter.
Nothing could be further from the truth.
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I agree! He HATES it, Jarrett hates it, they all hate it. They make jokes because they are scared to death, wondering if they covered all the bases, destroyed the evidence but they are always waiting for the shoe to drop.... wondering who will do it, when or even if.
LMAO!
None of your effing business. He went for 2 years before I was born for a real estate license. In the middle 60s, after 66. And you are lying. You got more than one question. I have been 100% honest. Wrong at times, but honest in admitting it.
It’s called knee reconstruction and percocet, a narcotic pain killer I took for a short time post surgery. There are more than I few things I do not remember well or at all. Miserable experience, not that you give a crap.
Sorry for phone posting. “Aunts” = Aunt’s signature. Homeschool = High school
Re: losing or not losing the American citizenship. Please correct me if I am wrong. But let’s say he hasn’t lost his American citizenship. Does it even matter? He would still be a dual citizen (unless he had officially renounced his Indonesian citizenship). Are you qualified to be President if you have two citizenships? That’s what I would like to know.
“Let’s say Obama gained Indonesian citizen as a child.”
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We do not need to ‘lets say’. He WAS, without a single doubt an Indonesian citizen according to Indonesian law.
His step-father/adopted-father was an Indonesian citizen. And so was his mother! His mother was an Indonesian citizen according to Indonesian citizenship laws.
A woman who marries an Indonesian citizen herself becomes an Indonesian citizen if after one he has not given up his Indonesian Citizenship.
So if the father was an Indonesian citizen and mother was an Indonesian citizen then of course Obama was also an Indonesian citizen. There is no other conclusion. How can a 3 year old child have different citizenship that his birth mother and the father of his household?
Obama WAS an Indonesian citizen in the eyes of Indonesia.
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