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To: Jack Hydrazine

“What the linguists are saying about the Turkic origins of the Indo-European languages indirectly supports that story from the Torah (aka the Bible).”

for a study, and comments on a study about languages, referring to Anatolia (the place) in reference to orgins of Indo-European languages, it seems strange that any learned person would refer to them as either the “Turkish” (a modern nation) or the “Turkic” orgins, as the language “Turkish” is not native to Anatolia, but came from central Asia, around what is not Turkmekistan, which is wherefrom the “Turks’ that took over Anatolia came from

“Turkish” the language came along after the original “Indo-Europeans” migrated, radiating out from Anatolia

so, we can talk about the “Anatolian” origins of the Indo-European languages, without confusing the place, in history, with the modern day occupants of the area


30 posted on 08/24/2012 1:32:37 PM PDT by Wuli
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To: Wuli
The Turkish language spread into Anatolia after the Seljuk Turk victory over the Byzantine Empire in 1071 at the battle of Manzikert. It's related to the other Turkic languages (mostly spoken east of the Caspian Sea) and more distantly to Mongolian. It has no connection with the Indo-European languages (apart from the possible borrowing of individual words from one language to another). There was an Indo-European language spoken in Chinese Turkestan in the Middle Ages, actually two related languages, called Tocharian A and Tocharian B, which are apparently closer to the European branches of Indo-European than they are to the Indo-Iranian branches...now extinct but known from some texts that were discovered.

There is a Turkish language called Gagauz spoken by 150,000 to 200,000 people in the Balkans, Moldova, and Ukraine. The speakers are Christians (mostly Orthodox, some Protestants) and supposedly do not differ in their DNA from neighboring speakers of other languages (Romanian, Ukrainian, Bulgarian--all Indo-European languages). Maybe they settled there before the period when that region was part of the Ottoman Empire.

34 posted on 08/24/2012 7:48:24 PM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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