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To: NVDave

I think its even simpler than that. I think if the anti abortion people would just shut up about birth control and the morning after pill, we could outlaw late term abortion tomorrow, and midterm abortion next year, and probably early term abortion the year after that.


11 posted on 08/11/2012 7:40:58 PM PDT by mamelukesabre
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To: mamelukesabre

You’re right as far as late-term abortions, but the other aspects would take longer.

What I’m trying to get at, and the anti-abortion crowd is too damn dense to understand, is that the only way to make a systemic political change on issues like this is to make supporting a particular political position so expensive, that a political party will not “go there.”

Take gun control. Sure, the Democrats have made noises (especially among their reliably loony Jewish liberal members from nice, safe districts and states) for more gun control.

But the national DNC isn’t having any of it. They know how much it cost them in 1994. They can look out over the landscape and see that the whole of public opinion has now shifted under their feet and as much as their idiots in office might want to trumpet gun control, the smarter heads among them will not allow it to pass or even come to a up/down vote.

How did this happen? By costing the pro-gun-control people their cushy seats. But costing them elections. By shifting public opinion to such a point that there’s nothing in it for a political hack to seriously propose gun control any more.

OK, so how do we accomplish that with abortion?

Easy. Give those who want free and easy abortions... free and easy abortions. Look, if implemented as rigorously as the mendacious twits who propose such things would want.... we could see the minority voting bloc that put Obama into office gutted within a generation. The Demorats would never again support abortion because after about only 10 years, they could see the consequences of their position, when applied to only them.

So: Encourage conservative women to have children and not have abortions. Encourage adoption by conservative parents to get kids out of liberal cesspools. Encourage conservatives to get their kids out of public schools and out of the reach of the advocates of feral stupidity that run them.

At the same time, give the abortionists exactly what they want. Give them such a tidal wave of abortion, forced sterilizations, etc that in 20 years, there’s nothing the Democrats can do to win an election on their prior platform - because the new generation of voters who would have supported their platform are gone. As the older generations die off, the Democrats (and their positions) disappear from the political landscape.

Let’s put it more starkly:

If the anti-abortion people had a clue, quit sermonizing and singing hymns and other stupid nonsense and got down and dirty with the politics of this issue back in the 70’s, by today, abortion on demand would be a) a dirty secret (if it were still legal) and b) have no political support outside a very limited set of circumstances. It certainly would not be paid for with taxpayer money.

But the holy rollers are going to keep on sermonizing so that they can feel good about themselves rather than win the political fight. And that’s what this is - a political battle. As long as it keeps getting pitched as some big moral issue, the Democrats and secularists are going to dismiss it.

In the end, I hope the holier-than-us crowd are happy, because a whole lot more abortions will continue to be done under their sanctimony than under my ruthless, but effective, ideas of giving the liberals what they want.... good and hard.


19 posted on 08/11/2012 9:24:37 PM PDT by NVDave
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