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To: wagglebee
If you look at the pictures of the crowds in August 1914 in Saint Petersburg and elsewhere they seem pretty willing. (As do the crowds in every other European belligerent capital!) What doomed Russian was it's backwardness and its military incompetence. War had moved past where all you needed to win was feed numbers to the battlefield. Technology was at a point where it could kill and maim faster then you could feed the beast. The Russo-Japanese War did send the message that battlefield technology was the deciding factor, but obviously it fell on deaf ears.
As far as Czar Nicholas II goes, he was a good and decent man, and I think cared for the Russian people. However he wasn't very bright, his father poorly prepared him for the throne, he was way too mild mannered to be the Czar of Russia. I think he did care for the Russian people but didn't know how to be effective, whatever levers he had to pull or push were corrupt, obsolete and made things worse. None of this he understood it was beyond him and outside his world view.
20 posted on 07/11/2012 9:38:00 AM PDT by Reily
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To: Reily

Nice post. Barbed wire, machine guns, artillery and chemical weapons. Not the same as the Charge of the Light Brigade.

One of Russia’s greatest fears has historically been to be left behind intellectually, technologically, culturally, commercially by the West, and in this case the fear became reality.


23 posted on 07/11/2012 10:37:42 AM PDT by 2 Kool 2 Be 4-Gotten
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To: Reily
What doomed Russian was it's backwardness and its military incompetence. War had moved past where all you needed to win was feed numbers to the battlefield. Technology was at a point where it could kill and maim faster then you could feed the beast. The Russo-Japanese War did send the message that battlefield technology was the deciding factor, but obviously it fell on deaf ears.

Excellent point and this is at least partly due to the fact that western Europe was much further along with technology in general.

As far as Czar Nicholas II goes, he was a good and decent man, and I think cared for the Russian people. However he wasn't very bright, his father poorly prepared him for the throne, he was way too mild mannered to be the Czar of Russia. I think he did care for the Russian people but didn't know how to be effective, whatever levers he had to pull or push were corrupt, obsolete and made things worse. None of this he understood it was beyond him and outside his world view.

As I said in my first post on this thread, I think he would have made an excellent constitutional monarch in the manner exemplified by his cousin George V. Unfortunately, it is difficult to transition from an autocracy to a democratic republic (Russia still hasn't done it) and I think Nicholas was doomed from the outset.

24 posted on 07/11/2012 11:00:37 AM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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