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To: Norm Lenhart; M Kehoe
Norm writes: A person voting for a liberal, regardless of the reason, is still casting their vote, and by doing so, giving active support with intent to elect him. That can in no logical way be defined as a conservative thing to do.

So sad that you are correct, Norm. MKehoe, you cannot vote "against" Obama or Romney, nor can any other American. You can only vote FOR a replacement. Your vote for Romney, while you intend it to be "against" Obama, will only be perceived, regarded, and acted upon as your endorsment and sanction of all that Romney stands for. PERIOD.

I will vote official third party knowing that the guy I vote for doesn't have a snowball's chance of replacing Obama, but also knowing that by withholding my vote from Romney and Obama and giving it to another candidate, my vote will be included in the final tally that will, I hope and pray, make it so whichever menace wins, Romney or Obama, has a weak and pathetic victory so as to be all the easier to for all those conservatives I'll have voted for down ticket, to fight and DOMINATE.

You are risking a popular landslide mandate for Romney's progressivism, which certainly is as nuts as voting for Obama. What you mean to vote "against" won't mean a damned thing come 2013; the only thing that will count is what you voted FOR.

That's why I'll be voting for a plurality. It's the ONLY way I can use my vote at the top of the ticket to help conservatives downticket.

816 posted on 07/05/2012 12:16:20 PM PDT by Finny (A deal with the devil is ALWAYS a losing proposition. Voting for Romney to avoid Obama is just that.)
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To: Finny
Your vote for Romney, while you intend it to be "against" Obama, will only be perceived, regarded, and acted upon as your endorsment and sanction of all that Romney stands for. PERIOD.

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Exactly right.

835 posted on 07/05/2012 12:29:09 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: Finny
Your vote for Romney, while you intend it to be "against" Obama, will only be perceived, regarded, and acted upon as your endorsment and sanction of all that Romney stands for. PERIOD.

"Perceived and regarded" by whom? The entire political world knows about "ABO", and that many of the people supporting Romney are only doing so because they can't stand Obama. Nobody in their right mind will read this result as a full endorsement by every voter of everything Romney supports.

And that's hardly uncommon in a two party system. Many voters are not happy with the choices presented to them, and a vote may be as much against a candidate rather than for one. my vote will be included in the final tally that will, I hope and pray, make it so whichever menace wins, Romney or Obama, has a weak and pathetic victory.

How do you expect your vote to do that? It's not going to result in any electoral votes going to your candidate, so the only thing it is going to do is affect the popular vote. Why does that matter? I pointed out before, Bubba only got a plurality, and Bush actually lost the popular vote. But nobody cared -- it made no difference at all.

So what is your basis for thinking it will make a difference this time? I get not voting for Romney because you don't like the guy -- that's makes sense even if I don't agree. But thinking a third party vote will make some mystical difference has zero historical support when there is not viable third party candidate running who actually has a chance to win.

863 posted on 07/05/2012 12:54:01 PM PDT by Bruce Campbells Chin
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