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To: PGR88; JCBreckenridge

There is also a shortage of farmers, truck mechanics, welders, plumbers, electricians.


With the exception of farmers (only because I don’t know if any thing is needed) you have not seen the requirements for all of the above jobs have you?

Lets touch on electricians shall we..

In Minnesota you need a 3 year degree to be a “power limited” electrician. Basically this will cover low voltage items. Computer networks, cable tv, door bells, CCTV, alarm systems...

a 3 year degree. Just to hook up a door bell button.

(this is the field I am currently in. computer networking support and repair)

How long do you have to go to school or work in the field to become a master electrician? A long.. long.. damn time.

Even a truck mechanic. Just because you have a box of tools.. Do you know how to fix the truck? Off to school you go. 2-4 years.

When I first started off in the automotive field I was a oil change/tire boy... Still needed tools and if I remember right, I got a buck more than minimum wage. it was 6 years later I got my ASE Master Tech certification. I also went to 2 years of schooling.

Welding is a learned skill. You can go to school or learn the trade. You won’t get hired today with no skills.

Plumbers require just as much training as electricians.

You have to do much more than simply pee in a cup, show up on time and use your head to do these jobs.

if nothing is required to farm your still have to know what your doing. I doubt you can just plant a corn seed and wait a while to harvest it.

You actually also have to know what your doing.


46 posted on 06/25/2012 12:44:40 PM PDT by cableguymn (If your policies are pushing the economy in to headwinds.. TURN YOUR POLICY AROUND!)
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To: cableguymn

“You actually also have to know what your doing.”

Speaking to the choir. It’s a disaster for young folks. Everyone’s bagging on them, but they don’t know what it’s actually like.

The skills don’t matter - what does is restricting entry into the profession by piling on the requirements. Fewer people = less competition = higher wages. It might benefit the older folks who never had to jump through these hoops, but it destroys the younger folks.

I know master mechanics who build their own cars from scratch that actually make more money on their sideline of driving not from their mechanic skills. Why? Because they can’t get anyone to sponsor them and the school isn’t willing to take them unless they have a sponsor. For a course that would tell him what he’s known since he was 12.


51 posted on 06/25/2012 12:56:38 PM PDT by JCBreckenridge (Texas, Texas, Whisky)
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