Euro 2012: Football fans in Warsaw clash (Russia - Poland match)

BBC ^ | 12 June 2012 | Alex Capstick

[Cronos]

the same period that Austria and Germany ruled the other 2/3 of Poland!)

Well, remember this -- the partitions were not equal, the Muscowites took the largest share

Remember again that just a few decades earlier the Muscowites had demolished much of the Russian lands like Nowgorod etc. -- well, to be fair this was Ivan IV's doing, and he was equally brutal to his own people

you talk of Soligalich etc. but the numbers don't match

Also, the Polish-Muscowite war was to a large extent supported by various Muscowite boyars and the idea was mooted of a Polish-Russian union, which could have happened if not for Zygmunt III Waza -- his son, Władisław was in fact declared Tsar, remember.

[Cronos]

well, it's not against you, but just pointing out errors in your posts -- no one besides God knows everything, so no big deal in making a few mistakes if one acknowledges the errors (as you did) when pointed it out

[Ax]

One really can’t blame the Poles for their attitude toward the Russians. As the Red Army rolled westward toward Berlin, they camped outside Warsaw. Polish patriots rose up against the Nazi garrison and fought desperately, assuming that the Red Army would come to their rescue. But Stalin held his forces outside the city and let the two sides slaughter each other. “Uncle Joe” figured that the Poles fighting the Nazis would be the ones least likely to accept Soviet rule. For him, the betrayal of the Poles was a win-win situation.