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To: supercat
"A photograph depicts a scene as one would see it if one looked through a peephole. By contrast, a painting can represent a scene more as one would actually look at it, moving one's head around and shifting one's focus from one part to another."

That was exactly his evidence: a lens sees things differently from the human eye. The paintings in question have the effects and perspective of a lens.

68 posted on 06/09/2012 6:18:56 PM PDT by Flag_This (Real presidents don't bow.)
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To: Flag_This
That was exactly his evidence: a lens sees things differently from the human eye. The paintings in question have the effects and perspective of a lens.

I am familiar with one particular work cited by Mr. Hockney (I have seen the actual work--not just pictures--at the Memphis Brooks Museum). Aesthetically, I don't like it as much as a like many of William Bouguereau's works. While it certainly includes a level of extraneous detail not typically found in classical realism, and the perspective would not be inconsistent with a camera obscura, by my understanding Hockney goes further:

  1. He seems to suggest that painters mostly relied upon the camera obscura, rather than it being used as an occasional experiment by a few painters.
  2. Some people who are familiar with the way images are projected can reproduce effects such as foreshortening "accurately" without cameras; I won't quite way "freehand", since the techniques often involve guide lines. Such lines may not appear on a finished work if the design is first rendered as a drawing.
I won't dispute that some 19th-century painters probably used the camera obscura, at least experimentally. I do, however, dispute what I understand to be Hockney's broader claim--that the Classical Realist artists weren't so impressive as they seem, since all they did was trace projections.
82 posted on 06/10/2012 8:12:29 AM PDT by supercat (Renounce Covetousness.)
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