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To: marron
elemental hydrocarbons pre-exist the earth

Stay with the first word, elemental, elements, atoms, not hydrocarbons.

If Carbon and Hydrogen are ejected in a big bang creation of the universe, as these hot gas combine, they are going to eventually form their lowest energy state. Without a sufficient presence of oxygen, they are going to eventually form simple hydrocarbons, like what is found on Titan.

On earth, when the organic debris remains in contact with sufficient oxygen, it eventually goes to the lowest energy state, carbon dioxide, water, sulfur dioxide, etc. When sediment at the bottom of the lake/ocean cover over and bury the organics away from a source of oxygen, we get hydrocarbons. The more thermally mature our sediment rock becomes (heat and time factors) the lighter (smaller) our hydrocarbons become. Natural Gas is found in greater percentages than oil in the more thermally mature fields.

57 posted on 06/04/2012 4:24:10 PM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: thackney
You went from elemental to organic debris... Let's us look at that.

/johnny

59 posted on 06/04/2012 4:29:46 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: thackney
not hydrocarbons.

If methane isn't a hydrocarbon, I'm the Queen of England.

And I'm not.

Hydrocarbons exist on Titan.

/johnny

60 posted on 06/04/2012 4:32:25 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: thackney
Thanks. I work in this world but I don't necessarily understand the basic chemistry.

when the organic debris remains in contact with sufficient oxygen, it eventually goes to the lowest energy state, carbon dioxide, water, sulfur dioxide, etc. When sediment at the bottom of the lake/ocean cover over and bury the organics away from a source of oxygen, we get hydrocarbons.

Reminds me of the frozen methane deposits at the bottom of our own oceans.

70 posted on 06/04/2012 4:59:55 PM PDT by marron
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To: thackney
On earth, when the organic debris remains in contact with sufficient oxygen, it eventually goes to the lowest energy state, carbon dioxide, water, sulfur dioxide, etc. When sediment at the bottom of the lake/ocean cover over and bury the organics away from a source of oxygen, we get hydrocarbons. The more thermally mature our sediment rock becomes (heat and time factors) the lighter (smaller) our hydrocarbons become. Natural Gas is found in greater percentages than oil in the more thermally mature fields.

Yes, but simple and obvious facts are just not as cute as this.


88 posted on 06/06/2012 12:53:58 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Lame and ill-informed post)
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