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To: exDemMom
And there is no possibility whatsoever that I could have judged his qualifications based on my personal examination of the publically available information on his scientific career?

If they are the main brains behind "intelligent design" (ID) or creation "science" (CS), they are charlatans.

LOL. I expect better reasoning out of my ten year old.

. Given that evolutionary theory is the backbone of the life sciences, every aspect of that theory has been tested countless times.

That is just delusional. I'll be blunt: everything you have said so far indicates that your knowledge of science is based on literal, young-earth creationist literature. That hardly qualifies as a well-rounded science education.

Oh please. You have the same black and white standard for everyone: Either you agree with me and are educated and scientific or you disagree and are therefore an ignorant rube in need of education. The problem is not that science is so esoteric that we can't defend it to the masses.

Every time you post a link and I explain what I get from it you accuse me of pretending to be more educated than I am.

But our quiet and rational voices can't compete with the boisterous hubbub of quacks promising miracles.

Who's promising miracles? You keep claiming that evolution is the key to all our understanding.

235 posted on 06/04/2012 1:39:48 PM PDT by hopespringseternal
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To: hopespringseternal
Oh please. You have the same black and white standard for everyone: Either you agree with me and are educated and scientific or you disagree and are therefore an ignorant rube in need of education.

Science isn't based on opinion. It's based on rigorous experimentation and painstaking analysis of the data. There's nothing to agree or disagree about here--either you know and understand the science, or you don't.

Every time you post a link and I explain what I get from it you accuse me of pretending to be more educated than I am.

Every time I have posted a link, you've bent over backwards to try to interpret it as something other than what it is. And you have tried to claim that you know about science, even while making some remarkably, astoundingly unscientific statements.

Who's promising miracles? You keep claiming that evolution is the key to all our understanding.

Oh, this one is easy. Just Google "creationist websites", and the first few hits are those that are promising miracles. Oh, yes, if you'll just donate some money to them or buy their anti-science books, they promise to take away all your doubts about your faith and give you a ticket to heaven. Of course, the reality is that the more they claim that, somehow, proving evolution is equivalent to proving that God does not exist, or that Jesus did not die on the cross for us, the more they make you doubt your faith, for the simple reason that evidence of evolution is ubiquitous and just won't go away. I read about a man who completely rejected Christianity and became an atheist because his creationist parents taught him that evidence of evolution is proof that God doesn't exist. He's probably just one of many like that.

And while those creationist charlatans are offering you heaven (in exchange for your money), all *I* can offer is a better understanding of biology (because evolution *is* the key to understanding biology). And *maybe* that better understanding of biology will help to cure people of disease... well, some diseases aren't curable, but maybe we can help you live with them... well, we can't always do that, either... but at least, we can make people more comfortable so they don't die in pain.

244 posted on 06/05/2012 6:08:49 PM PDT by exDemMom (Now that I've finally accepted that I'm living a bad hair life, I'm more at peace with the world.)
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