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Vanitissimo | 23 May 2012 | Me

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To: fortheDeclaration
"No nothing sinister, just more information the Government has access to, that FB provided for them-sparky."

The Gub'ment already has access to that info via the CALEA compliant system installed in your ISP. Come on Sparky try and keep up. The Gub'ment doesn't need Facebook to get that info they have the authority to get it anytime they want from your ISP. As well as every email and website you've visited.

181 posted on 06/05/2012 1:55:11 PM PDT by Mad Dawgg (If you're going to deny my 1st Amendment rights then I must proceed to the 2nd one...)
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To: Mad Dawgg

The government doesn’t have access to all of the kind of things people post on FB, who are you trying to kid!


182 posted on 06/05/2012 2:10:36 PM PDT by fortheDeclaration (Pr 14:34 Righteousness exalteth a nation:but sin is a reproach to any people)
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To: Mad Dawgg
The essential part of the story is that FB stock is dropping.

And eventually it will be replaced with something else and the world will move on quite nicely without it.

183 posted on 06/05/2012 2:12:47 PM PDT by fortheDeclaration (Pr 14:34 Righteousness exalteth a nation:but sin is a reproach to any people)
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To: Mad Dawgg

See you tomorrow-sparky.


184 posted on 06/05/2012 2:13:26 PM PDT by fortheDeclaration (Pr 14:34 Righteousness exalteth a nation:but sin is a reproach to any people)
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To: fortheDeclaration
"The government doesn’t have access to all of the kind of things people post on FB, who are you trying to kid!"

hahahahah Wow you are just so ignorant its astonishing. CALEA allows the government to have every single bit of info that passes through your connection. Everything. It also does so for your phones. Its literally built into the system by law.

185 posted on 06/05/2012 6:12:11 PM PDT by Mad Dawgg (If you're going to deny my 1st Amendment rights then I must proceed to the 2nd one...)
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To: Mad Dawgg
You are really dense!

I am not speaking about what the government has access to, I am speaking about what other individuals can get access to.

You need to spend less time on FB and read a book, it will improve your thinking ability.

186 posted on 06/06/2012 2:17:12 PM PDT by fortheDeclaration (Pr 14:34 Righteousness exalteth a nation:but sin is a reproach to any people)
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To: fortheDeclaration
"I am not speaking about what the government has access to, I am speaking about what other individuals can get access to. "

I see, so now you are contradicting yourself. From your Post 182:

"The government doesn’t have access to all of the kind of things people post on FB, who are you trying to kid!"

Its amazing you can't keep your own story straight you just flail about morphing your argument when you are proved wrong time and time again. Maybe you should get a responsible adult to help you with your next response. hahahah

And BTW individuals can only gain access to what you choose to share. See if you actually used Facebook you would know this. But you prattle on about something you don't even use nor have a clue on how it works.

187 posted on 06/06/2012 3:25:29 PM PDT by Mad Dawgg (If you're going to deny my 1st Amendment rights then I must proceed to the 2nd one...)
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To: Mad Dawgg
It is amazing that you can't figure out context.

You made a comment saying that the government getting involved in your life wasn't a 'real problem' since the Government already knows EVERYTHING about you anyway.

I made the point that they don't have your family photos on the internet, that is something you are willingly giving them access to.

So, the primary issue that I had raised regarding privacy was that individuals had access to many things they wouldn't have access to.

I posted examples of criminals and those who could use your comments against you in various situations.

So, my reference to the Government was only to your response, not as the only issue.

Your defense is seems to be 'why bother' they know everything already'.

But I wasn't making just the point about Government having access, but others as well.

So, once again, your attempts to create a straw man is an abject failure.

FB is mostly a waste of time and if it ended tomorrow the world would take very little notice.

Clear enough? Sparky.

188 posted on 06/08/2012 11:29:26 PM PDT by fortheDeclaration (Pr 14:34 Righteousness exalteth a nation:but sin is a reproach to any people)
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To: Mad Dawgg
Actually it is you who don't 'get it' because the fact is that no matter what 'safe guards' that FB attempts to place on it, it is always vulnerable to being hacked or later exposed.

So who are you trying to kid?

And the issue of privacy wasn't the major factor that FB is a waste of time, the fact that most of what goes on it is about nothing of any realy importance to anyone but to the one that that posts it.

So, again, FB has very little value in the real world, and if it ended tomorrow it would have very little effect on anything going on in the real world.

190 posted on 06/09/2012 11:50:42 AM PDT by fortheDeclaration (Pr 14:34 Righteousness exalteth a nation:but sin is a reproach to any people)
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To: Mad Dawgg

Facebook Users Don’t Trust Site on Privacy Issues
By Ian Paul, PCWorld May 15, 2012 9:00 AM

Facebook lays claim to more than 900 million members across the globe and may have a massive initial public offering in the coming days, but a new poll says users have trust issues with the social networking site. More than half of those surveyed, 59 percent, said they had little to no trust that Facebook would keep their information private, according to an AP-CNBC poll. The study also found that 54 percent of the survey’s 1,004 respondents would not “feel safe at all” purchasing goods and services through the world’s largest social network.

The news that Facebook users do not trust the company to keep their information private is hardly surprising given the social network’s shady past with privacy-related issues. Concerns over privacy changes involving new products such as Beacon, frictionless sharing, Instant Personalization, and Places always make headlines. And seemingly never-ending changes to Facebook’s terms of service and privacy policy allow users to think twice about trusting Facebook.
http://www.pcworld.com/article/255615/facebook_users_dont_trust_site_on_privacy_issues.html


191 posted on 06/09/2012 11:56:49 AM PDT by fortheDeclaration (Pr 14:34 Righteousness exalteth a nation:but sin is a reproach to any people)
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To: Mad Dawgg

Facebook Road Block: Ad Sales

Many analysts have also been worried about Facebook’s ability to monetize the mobile application of its site. The Daily Ticker’s very own Henry Blodget cites this as a major risk for the company moving forward. (See: FACEBOOK IPO: Biggest Risks and Opportunities)

But in a surprising turn of events Tuesday, it seems Facebook may now have a bigger problem with its overall ad sale strategy. General Motors (GM) announced it was pulling its ads on Facebook because the ads did not translate into car sales. GM spent $10 million to advertise on the social networking site last year, which is small compared to the $3.7 billion in revenue Facebook pulled in during 2011.

Adding insult to injury, that same AP-CNBC poll found that half of Facebook users don’t click on ads displayed on the site.
http://finance.yahoo.com/blogs/daily-ticker/facebook-privacy-concerns-majority-facebook-users-don-t-154550920.html


192 posted on 06/09/2012 12:00:21 PM PDT by fortheDeclaration (Pr 14:34 Righteousness exalteth a nation:but sin is a reproach to any people)
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To: Mad Dawgg

While everyone at Facebook HQ should be celebrating the company launching its stock, the lawyers are busy facing down a new $15 billion dollar lawsuit.

A total of 21 lawsuits from around the country have now been combined into one massive class action lawsuit with a value of $15 billion. According to Bloomberg, the paperwork has been filed in the Federal Court in San Jose, California by Stewarts Law US LLP.

The main issue at stake here are claims that Facebook continued to track users’ Web activity even after they had logged out of their accounts on the social network. “This is not just a damages action, but a groundbreaking digital-privacy rights case that could have wide and significant legal and business implications,” said David Straite, a partner at Stewarts Law partner. Currently the lawsuit only covers residents of the United States, but the law firm is currently looking into methods by which it could add additional litigants from other countries.

A spokesperson from Facebook’s legal department said of the lawsuit that it is “without merit and we will fight it vigorously.”
http://www.technobuffalo.com/internet/social-networking/facebook/facebook-sued-for-15-billion-over-privacy-issues/


193 posted on 06/09/2012 12:05:38 PM PDT by fortheDeclaration (Pr 14:34 Righteousness exalteth a nation:but sin is a reproach to any people)
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To: Mad Dawgg

The “State of the Net” research and statistics from Consumer Reports suggest that there is an overall increase in certain digital problems — such as ID thefts, phishing schemes, and security breaches — in the past year, while issues related malware and unauthorized credit charges are occurring neither more nor less frequently than in the prior 12 months. The most startling findings however, involve how much Facebook knows about its nearly 900 million members, and how much we freely offer — information mined by employers, insurers, the IRS, divorce lawyers, as well as identity thieves and other criminals.

Consumer Reports does note Facebook’s efforts to simplify privacy settings and improve security — as well settle allegations from the Federal Trade Commission and submit to independent audits for the next 20 years. But the watchdog outfit also calls out Facebook’s support of the controversial Cyber Intelligence Sharing and Protection Act (HR 3523), which would allow the social network to share your information with the government without judicial oversight, and states that the social network needs to do more.

Jeff Fox — a technology editor at Consumer Reports who was part of the team of survey professionals, fact checkers, reporters and editors who worked on the study — told msnbc.com that “Facebook’s treatment of privacy has often been reactive rather than proactive.”

“If they were proactive, we wouldn’t have to tell them about some of these glitches,” Fox explained, calling attention to a timeline in the Consumer Reports roundup. The social network’s history of privacy and security oversteps echo complaints from other digital rights advocates including the American Civil Liberties Union and the Electronic Frontier Foundation — that Facebook fixes issues only after it’s forced into the spotlight or after authorities approach the social network. “Things would be better if they were proactive and forward-thinking, rather than fixing things and apologizing after they upset people,” Fox said.
http://www.technolog.msnbc.msn.com/technology/technolog/consumer-reports-facebook-privacy-problems-are-rise-749990


194 posted on 06/09/2012 12:11:03 PM PDT by fortheDeclaration (Pr 14:34 Righteousness exalteth a nation:but sin is a reproach to any people)
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To: Mad Dawgg
No I didn't contradict my own words, you clearly have a have a problem reading simple English.

FB privacy issues are broader then simply sharing data with the government.

Clear yet-Sparky?

195 posted on 06/09/2012 12:15:28 PM PDT by fortheDeclaration (Pr 14:34 Righteousness exalteth a nation:but sin is a reproach to any people)
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To: fortheDeclaration
"Actually it is you who don't 'get it' because the fact is that no matter what 'safe guards' that FB attempts to place on it, it is always vulnerable to being hacked or later exposed."

OK so now you have morphed your argument to hacking. Newsflash Sparky ANY site is vulnerable to hacking. American Express Master Card and Visa have all been hacked. So now your argument is Facebook is bad because it might be hacked?

Wow, you flail and flail and flail and never gain purchase on a single fact.

Bottom line Sparky Facebook is used by Hundreds of Millions every day. Its used by Businesses and Charities and Churches and Civic Organizations and Politicians and City Government as well as millions of individuals. Facebook is changing the way we communicate. And you can claim its not but we both know you are full of crap! Hahahah

196 posted on 06/09/2012 12:57:07 PM PDT by Mad Dawgg (If you're going to deny my 1st Amendment rights then I must proceed to the 2nd one...)
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To: Mad Dawgg
No one has morphed anything, the fact is that FB has some real privacy concerns and most on FB don't trust FB to protect their privacy.

And that was always my argument in that regard, not just the government issue.

Maybe you can find a FB that teaches reading.

But your constant 'defense' of FB has been to set up strawman arguments on what I never said.

Yet again, you confuse popularity with actual importance in the society.

FB is not changing anything important regarding communication.

If FB ended tomorrow, the world would take very little note of it-Sparky.

197 posted on 06/11/2012 12:06:50 AM PDT by fortheDeclaration (Pr 14:34 Righteousness exalteth a nation:but sin is a reproach to any people)
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To: Mad Dawgg

Facebook Commerce Has Been A Big Flop
http://articles.businessinsider.com/2012-02-19/tech/31076370_1_zynga-facebook-market-e-commerce


198 posted on 06/11/2012 12:22:39 AM PDT by fortheDeclaration (Pr 14:34 Righteousness exalteth a nation:but sin is a reproach to any people)
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To: fortheDeclaration
hahahah No one has Morphed anything? You do nothing but. First you claim "No one would notice if Facebook went away, you would have us believe that 900 Million users wouldn't notice if they went away. Laughable notion at best Hahahah But then you talk about Facebook stock. Like Facebook stockholders wouldn't notice.

Tha's Morph number one. When you realized how stupid it was to claim that 900 Million wouldn't notice you tried to morph your argument to stock prices going down claiming no one had faith in the company. But that is totally laughable since for a stock to sell someone has to buy it. And being there is a buyer for each and every seller then you can see once again your whole premise is flawed to the max.

Your next argument is that Facebook is just a Social Chat site. Well we both know that is total BS. because now you are posting articles on Facebook Ecommerce which is not a Social Function at all. its a shame your search only had an article about how J.C. Penny Failing. You missed lots more articles about how Venture Capitalists are putting money into up and coming Online Retailers to do Facebook Ecommerce:

From one of the articles:

"That has not stopped venture capital firms from pouring money into rookie companies they think have cracked the code.

There is a lot of buzz about Fab.com, which has amassed 3 million users who broadcast purchases via a "bought" button that advertises their shopping habits to friends. Fab built its user base in part by offering $5 a month to those who agree to share their Fab purchases and favorites on Facebook. Chief Executive Jason Goldberg said "tens of thousands" opted in.

BeachMint co-founder Diego Berdakin said his company had set up a live video event called StyleMint.tv last holiday season featuring a brief appearance by Facebook CEO Mark Zuckerberg's sister, Randi Zuckerberg. For about two hours, they showcased BeachMint products that people could buy with one click.

More than 50,000 Facebook users watched the show and a "huge percentage" bought something, Berdakin said, adding, "At the time, it was the biggest day in our history in terms of sales."

Yardsellr, started in 2010 by former eBay manager Danny Leffel, organizes people into 3,000 communities, or "blocks," based on common interests. When someone posts a product for sale, it is sent to the news feeds of people in that block and purchases can be made with a few clicks.

Gross merchandise sales, a measure of the value of products, has been growing about 30 percent a month, according to Leffel. "Social commerce could be bigger than eBay," he argued.

Then there's Oodle, a start-up headed by Craig Donato, who runs Facebook's official marketplace, which boasts more than 3 million unique monthly users. When buyers and sellers post items, their Facebook identities are attached, giving users more confidence in the transactions, Donato said.

hahahah So We've went from you claiming Facebook is only a social Chat site and nothing more to you posting about Facebook ecommerce. Hahahahah That is so delicious.

Can't wait for you next load of Horsesh!t! TTFN

199 posted on 06/11/2012 12:16:24 PM PDT by Mad Dawgg (If you're going to deny my 1st Amendment rights then I must proceed to the 2nd one...)
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To: Mad Dawgg
That money is being invested into FB, was never denied.

That is due to it being popular.

What is doubted, even by those making the investment, is the true effect on real sales.

Hence that is the reason the market price of FB has dropped.

So, once again, your 'defense' is FB is simply rooted in the view that it is popular.

But the fact is that it has no real value in the world.

It is primarily a social media so people can talk about themselves and feel important.

200 posted on 06/12/2012 12:45:24 AM PDT by fortheDeclaration (Pr 14:34 Righteousness exalteth a nation:but sin is a reproach to any people)
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