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To: ctdonath2
but we’re gonna get the O if you don’t.

So... it's the same old republican line once again... "You've GOTTA vote for me, 'cause you don't want that OTHER guy!!!" So, say we vote for the republican.. once again.. then what?

Oh, yeah.... it'll be: "You've GOTTA vote for me, 'cause you don't want that OTHER guy!!!"

7 posted on 05/18/2012 7:42:00 AM PDT by ScottinVA (Buying Drain-O requires photo I.D... yet voting doesn't???)
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To: ScottinVA

You got a better option?

No, you don’t.

Yes, I know “vote for R or you’ll get O” sucks. I am very familiar and sympathetic with the reasoning. I also know that O is that much worse.

If we get Mitt, we’ll then struggle to swing him to the right. That’s better than struggling to keep the nation intact and out of CWII.

And ... you make my point again. You’re so bent out of shape about Mitt that you fail to address the incumbent whom Mitt is the only hope of dislodging - and the grave importance of doing so.


10 posted on 05/18/2012 7:48:29 AM PDT by ctdonath2 (Cloud storage? Dropbox rocks! Sign up at http://db.tt/nQqWGd3 for 2GB free (and I get more too).)
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To: ScottinVA; Jeff Head
The suicidal tendencies of some are astonishing to witness at FR of late.

Tell us how you tantrum troops believe there will be an America where some new conservative order will have an opportunity to establish itself as the alternative to the pubbie brand, if little barry bastard commie is allowed four more years to carry out his abortion of the Republic.

The tantrum troops are getting downright disgusting with this alinsky tactics of reverse ridicule over 'fear'. It never occurs to fools like the one who posted this thread that it may not be fear but planning and comprehension of just how bad it really is and how impossible it will be to have a Republic once little barry bastard commie is through doing his masters' work on US and the world!

24 posted on 05/18/2012 8:16:57 AM PDT by MHGinTN (Being deceived can be cured.)
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To: ScottinVA

From So Long, and Thanks for All the Fish by Douglas Adams:


[An extraterrestrial robot and spaceship has just landed on earth. The robot steps out of the spaceship...]

“I come in peace,” it said, adding after a long moment of further grinding, “take me to your Lizard.”

Ford Prefect, of course, had an explanation for this, as he sat with Arthur and watched the nonstop frenetic news reports on television, none of which had anything to say other than to record that the thing had done this amount of damage which was valued at that amount of billions of pounds and had killed this totally other number of people, and then say it again, because the robot was doing nothing more than standing there, swaying very slightly, and emitting short incomprehensible error messages.

“It comes from a very ancient democracy, you see...”

“You mean, it comes from a world of lizards?”

“No,” said Ford, who by this time was a little more rational and coherent than he had been, having finally had the coffee forced down him, “nothing so simple. Nothing anything like to straightforward. On its world, the people are people. The leaders are lizards. The people hate the lizards and the lizards rule the people.”

“Odd,” said Arthur, “I thought you said it was a democracy.”

“I did,” said ford. “It is.”

“So,” said Arthur, hoping he wasn’t sounding ridiculously obtuse, “why don’t the people get rid of the lizards?”

“It honestly doesn’t occur to them,” said Ford. “They’ve all got the vote, so they all pretty much assume that the government they’ve voted in more or less approximates to the government they want.”

“You mean they actually vote for the lizards?”

“Oh yes,” said Ford with a shrug, “of course.”

“But,” said Arthur, going for the big one again, “why?”

“Because if they didn’t vote for a lizard,” said Ford, “the wrong lizard might get in. Got any gin?”

“What?”

“I said,” said Ford, with an increasing air of urgency creeping into his voice, “have you got any gin?”

“I’ll look. Tell me about the lizards.”

Ford shrugged again.

“Some people say that the lizards are the best thing that ever happened to them,” he said. “They’re completely wrong of course, completely and utterly wrong, but someone’s got to say it.”


31 posted on 05/18/2012 8:28:18 AM PDT by ctdonath2 (Cloud storage? Dropbox rocks! Sign up at http://db.tt/nQqWGd3 for 2GB free (and I get more too).)
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To: ScottinVA
So... it's the same old republican line once again...

Our chance to bump Romney was during the primaries. We couldn't get it done. That is your fault, my fault and every other conservative's fault for failing to adequately find, nominate, support and CONVINCE enough voters to pull the lever for a better candidate *DURING THE PRIMARIES*.

Now that we are in the General campaign -- presuming you do not want to re-elect Obama -- logic, reasonableness and prudence dictates you must do everything you can for the most viable, opposing candidate. There is no other rational argument. Any other decision is more often blind-emotion and drama-queen hissy-fits, usually hiding behind a faux-claim of making a "principled stand" in the best interest of the country, or some other transparent, churched-up attempt at rationalizing the flawed premise that allowing Obama to be re-elected by not going all out for the most viable challenger is a better option.

Meanwhile, those of us who refuse to quit have to make the difficult decision to keep on fighting with the piss-poor candidate we have and hopefully find and promote a primary challenger to unseat Romney (if he gets elected) at the next election. If you have such a sure-thing candidate, then get him ahead of the GOP's candidate and I'll surely vote for him!! Otherwise, the GOP's candidate will be (like it or not) the most viable candidate opposing Obama.

This time, we had no conservative candidate that possessed the leadership qualities to unite us, so we *CLEARLY* need to do a better job selecting candidates. I don't care who your mystery *BEST-POSSIBLE* candidate is, if he was worth a damn as a leader, we would all be behind him now, united in staunch support. And we aren't. So, every candidate that ran this time? Out of contention for next time as far as I'm concerned. None of them were leaders of sufficient caliber. Doesn't matter the purity of their conservatism if they can't get a voter to vote for them. They all failed to gather a critical mass of support. They failed to convince and sway voters. They. Failed. Period. That's the ugly truth. And I don't want to hear jack-squat about the MSM or the GOP stacking the deck. We will *ALWAYS* have to contend with that foolishness and underhanded dirty-dealing. We need to find candidates that can overcome those obstacles and sway the voters IN SPITE OF IT. It's been done before (Reagan?). Those candidates surely exist, we just have to find & recruit them to run.

You want to change it? we've got four years to get our act together for the next presidential primary season. We all need to make the following decision right now: lead, follow or get the hell out of the way.
33 posted on 05/18/2012 8:36:16 AM PDT by jaydee770
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To: ScottinVA
Hey, I know! Lets all vote for the Libertarians or Constitution or Falcon parties!!! We can get really bitchin' outfits, sit around and talk about the Build-A-Burgers and the NWO and the Iluminati and Council on Foreign Relations.

It'll be great. We can feel really self-righteous for voting our principles and when anyone in the goupe disagrees with us, we can scream, "RINO"!!!!!!! and OUT they go!!!

Can't wait!!

105 posted on 05/18/2012 12:50:47 PM PDT by Deb (Beat him, strip him and bring him to my tent!)
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