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(vanity) MSNBC guest just compared disco/Donna Summer to gay marriage
May 17, 2012 | Me

Posted on 05/17/2012 10:21:14 AM PDT by ConservativeStatement

To brighten up your day, a guest on MSNBC just said (indirect quote) "I have never seen a movement in America to quiet a musical genre as the anti-disco fever which was a slap to Donna Summer. It is similar to today's marriage equality: get back in the closet."

He said this while an image of Donna Summer was on the screen. Liberals have absolutely no shame.


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KEYWORDS: dementalillness; disco; discoqueen; donnasummer; gaydramaqueens; gaymarriage; homosexualagenda; lavendermafia; msnbc; pinkjournalism; queenofdisco; revisionisthistory; summer
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To: ConservativeStatement
The summer of 1979 brings back great memories for me. It did start out as a disco summer with songs like "Ring My Bell" and "Bad Girls" ruling the charts. But then "My Sharona" by the Knack cut through the airwaves like a breath of fresh air and I think that one song pretty much fueled the infamous "Disco Demolition Night" in Chicago.

Seems like so long ago now but that summer I pretty much came of age (I was 17) and I could write an entire book on what happened to me that long, hot summer.

Then came the fall and I got into New Wave (Police, Cars, Talking Heads, etc.) and enlisted in the U.S. Marine Corps on October 29th - just about a week before the hostages were taken in Iran.

Favorite song from that summer was "Drivers Seat" by Sniff 'n' The Tears.

81 posted on 05/17/2012 7:25:52 PM PDT by SamAdams76
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To: Tublecane

You’re my hero.

I would say, though, that “pop” simply means “popular” - which means it could be anything. In truth, “pop” means nothing musically.

Otherwise, there sure are alot of snobs puffing up some music as superior, often just because it’s “different” or rebellious.

You could paraphrase for this Lincoln’s wise remark that people often call progress what is nothing more than change. People often call superior what is nothing more than different.


82 posted on 05/17/2012 8:39:59 PM PDT by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Technological progress cannot be legislated.)
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To: SamAdams76
“Driver's Seat” is a favorite of mine as well. I met Benjamin Orr of the Cars twice, seemed like a good dude, no rock star ego. Hopefully, he's smiling somewhere in Heaven.
83 posted on 05/17/2012 9:05:18 PM PDT by ConservativeStatement (Obama "acted stupidly.")
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To: ConservativeStatement
I'm a big fan of The Cars. In the summer of 1978 when I was just 16, I was at Downtown Crossing in Boston and the band were having publicity photos taken for their debut album. I saw then in concert five times after that including the Door-to-Door tour in 1987 in which the stadium was only half full. That was kind of sad as I thought Door to Door was a great album. The band broke up for good shortly after that.

Never met any of them personally like you did. But their music definitely spoke to me and was a soundtrack of my alienated, turbulent youth!

Too bad about Benjamin Orr. He died too soon.

84 posted on 05/17/2012 9:13:04 PM PDT by SamAdams76
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To: SamAdams76
I'm convinced they broke up before “Door to Door” at least emotionally. I agree with you abut D2D: a fine album that was caught between whatever issues happened at the time and perhaps societal, too, with the direction of music.
85 posted on 05/18/2012 6:31:33 AM PDT by ConservativeStatement (Obama "acted stupidly.")
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To: the OlLine Rebel

“I would say, though, that ‘pop’ simply means ‘popular’ - which means it could be anything. In truth, ‘pop’ means nothing musically”

Very true. For instance, one of the reasons they dubbed Michael Jackson the “king of pop,” aside from the fact that he was popular, is that he so mixed various styles—soul, r&b, funk, disco, rock—that it was impossible to tease them out and pin him down. I would argue, however, that at different times there are dominant styles. Therefore when you said “pop” in 1977 it more than anything else meant disco, and to say it today largely means hip-hop.

That’s not to say pop and hip-hop, or pop and disco, or pop and rocknroll, or pop and jazz, or pop and whatever will ever be synonymous.


86 posted on 05/18/2012 7:35:42 AM PDT by Tublecane
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To: Tublecane
Pretty amazing that the Beatles had NO market share in America for their first several years of recording despite have American distribution deals. Then suddenly overnight they became “sensations”.

Public support must be fickle. Or malleable by the media that denies equal access to smaller labels and acts until such time that they have a successful multi-album marketing deal inked.

87 posted on 05/18/2012 11:03:04 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (Barack Obama has cut and run from what he called "the right war".)
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To: Tublecane

Elvis wasn’t the first rocker and I doubt many outside of Michael Bolton took inspiration to become singers from his decade of movie musical soundtracks.

The Beatles weren’t the first of their sort either and by the time they turned their backs on rock and roll at the end of the band’s recording career many saw Sgt. Pepper as a day rock and roll died to be replaced by “concept albums” and overproduced drama.


88 posted on 05/18/2012 11:05:49 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (Barack Obama has cut and run from what he called "the right war".)
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To: Tublecane

Elvis was the king of pop.

Listen to the originals/predecessors of many of Elvis’ better known recordings and you’ll realize all of the genres he incorporated (Al Jolson’s recording of Are You Lonesome Tonight may be eye opening).

The Beatles held one foot in pop as well and certainly their catalog became one of the last groups to create such a song list that was successfully covered and reinterpreted by so many other bands.


89 posted on 05/18/2012 11:11:32 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (Barack Obama has cut and run from what he called "the right war".)
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To: the OlLine Rebel

By that definition President Obama is pop. At least according to the dominant media culture.

People I talk with don’t find him to be “popular” at all.

Your mileage may vary.


90 posted on 05/18/2012 11:17:43 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (Barack Obama has cut and run from what he called "the right war".)
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To: a fool in paradise

“Elvis wasn’t the first rocker...The Beatles weren’t the first of their sort either”

I never said they were. Just that they influenced people, which is pretty undeniable. You don’t have to be the first anything to influence people. Though if you are derivative of something else, things that derive from you may be said to derive also from that from which you derived. For instance, when you rip off Elvis you may also be ripping off All Jolson, the Ink Spots, or Big Mamma Thornton without knowing it.

This is so because though there are more and less innovative people, no one creates ex nihilo. Everyone rips off everyone else. Even with someone who’s generally recognized as being the first of a new style, for instance Sam Cooke and soul, all you have is the mixing of two styles that hadn’t yet been put together. And that’s ignoring his strong, prexisting competitor for the title: Ray Charles. All soul is, after all, is r&b mixed with gospel in a manner that’s often indistinguishable from other rock and roll and/or “pop.”


91 posted on 05/18/2012 11:43:17 AM PDT by Tublecane
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To: Tublecane

“All Jolson”

“All” = Al


92 posted on 05/18/2012 11:44:33 AM PDT by Tublecane
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To: a fool in paradise

“Elvis was the king of pop.

Listen to the originals/predecessors of many of Elvis’ better known recordings and you’ll realize all of the genres he incorporated”

You can say that, and it’s probably true that he mized as many genres as Michael Jackson at least. But I also think you can better pinpoint his subgenres, and that two of them at least were strong enopugh to constitute a true style, or two true styles, rather than the amalgqm that is Thriller, for instance. These two are rock and roll—blues played faster and harder so as to be maximally danceable—and rockabilly—an even balance between rock and roll and country and western.

Granted, you can dig up veins of pure predecessors within the predominant mixtures. You can find within Elvis the blues proper, as well as rock, country, rockabilly, doo-wop, the generic popular style that some people theorize to run through all of popular music, as well as a more jazzy pop, bossa nova, pure gospel, soul, folk, and so on.

Even so, there is a style, or two styles, Elvis is best known for, and these are fairly well defined, or at least moreso than are the styles of other “pop royalty,” namely MJ and Madonna.


93 posted on 05/18/2012 11:56:56 AM PDT by Tublecane
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To: SamAdams76

The Cars’ first album was just too good....they could never top that album no matter what they did.


94 posted on 05/18/2012 12:00:26 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Tublecane

Elvis topped the country, R&B, and “pop” charts all at once.

Where’s Michael Jackson’s country crossover hit?

Clarence Gatemouth Brown played more genres than Michael (country, swing, blues, R&B, jazz, zydeco, cajun).


95 posted on 05/18/2012 12:34:38 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (Barack Obama has cut and run from what he called "the right war".)
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To: dfwgator
The Cars’ first album was just too good....they could never top that album no matter what they did.

I agree. That debut was one of the most perfect albums of all time, although (for me), Candy-O came pretty close.

96 posted on 05/18/2012 12:55:00 PM PDT by SamAdams76
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To: TheBigIf
Lest we forget that the demcorats are the party of the KKK.
Also, Donna Summer was a ditto-head from way back. She truly was a class act. Sexy and seductive without being skanky or slutty. Lady Caca, Kesha and the rest of them could learn a thing or 2 from her. RIP
97 posted on 05/20/2012 4:15:28 PM PDT by Impala64ssa (You call me an islamophobe like it's a bad thing.)
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