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To: djf
the blog is not by anyone with training in science:I hold the honorary title of doctor of Oriental medicine and was one of the first nationally certified acupuncturists in the United States over 20 years ago.

he isn't a doctor, and he's not even trained in "oriental medicine", because he only claims an "honorary degree" and doesn't bother to note what college gave him that degree.

science based medicine blog notes that this is one of the many quackery articles on Huffpost, and that the cancer is destroyed by injecting the bicarb into the cancer.

well, if you inject an irritating substance into a cancer or even into normal tissue, it will die. But it won't "cure" the cancer: It will only leave you with a big hole filled with dead tissue. You could do the same thing by freezing it or taking it out or by injecting drano for that matter. Bicarb burns the tissue.

But it won't stop the cancer per se since the problem is not the tumor, but the spreading tendencies. Even if you remove a cancer, you have to remove surrounding tissue, or treat it with radiation or chemo to get the stray cells nearby.

So the Italian quack injection of bicarb is nonsense.

The link to the Arizona study is also very theoreticallink where they acidify mice by giving them oral bicarb and claim it changes the acidic nature of the tumor.

...but if you read the whole thing it doesn't cut down the number of cancer cells or the spread of cancer cells, and then they say this strange thing:. NaHCO(3) therapy also reduced the rate of lymph node involvement, yet did not affect the levels of circulating tumor cells, suggesting that reduced organ metastases were not due to increased intravasation. In contrast, NaHCO(3) therapy significantly reduced the formation of hepatic metastases following intrasplenic injection, suggesting that it did inhibit extravasation and colonization

uh, if you inject naHCO2 into the splenic vein, you will end up with a necrotic spleen...and it doesn't explain why it stops the spread to the liver. Of course, we already know the problem of injecting NaHCO3 into the liver: you get dead liver tissue.

So a very early study on mice is now touted as a cure, which is not what they found...and it's on hundreds of "alternative" medical sites.

Like other quackery, one worries on how many people will die because of this exaggeration.

37 posted on 05/09/2012 10:55:34 PM PDT by LadyDoc
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To: LadyDoc
Like other quackery, one worries on how many people will die because of this exaggeration.

If you haven't noticed, western medicine is killing people at such an alarming rate that people are actually daring to presume they can study medical concepts on their own, and read up on other physicians findings, and apply treatments to themselves.

And all of this without going through certified approval from someone such as your highness.

Shocking, isn't it?

Maybe you should lobby with other certified professionals to have such people destroyed by police powers, before they hurt themselves.

Seeing as your only concern is their well being, of course.

From quacks - who are, by definition, described as "not you."

"You" meaning certified professionals who know how to summarize all pertinant findings about a subject, and leave out all irrelevencies, having to do with saving lives, as you did in your completely honest post.

Yeah.

Sure.

Because no one who you haven't certified knows how to critique your position.

By definition.

43 posted on 05/10/2012 12:29:58 AM PDT by Talisker (He who commands, must obey.)
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