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Reading through that mess, I saw no mention of the identities of any of the chemicals involved. ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ No offense intended, but you obviously haven't investigated this "new science" since you don't even know that very basic aspect. All the cold fusion/LENR/E-Cat systems are starting with powdered Nickel and Hydrogen and reporting some transmutation into Copper. Until you know more about it, you might want to consider refraining from saying what it is or is not. You obviously know a good bit about physics, so I think you'll find it worthwhile. ;)) +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ The reaction 58Ni + p → 59Cu is a little unlikely; the Coulomb forces required to shove that proton into the nucleus are so high that, as I saw one physicist explain it, that much energy does not exist in the entire universe. +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Of course it violates the *known* properties of the Coulomb barrier. There are some other explanations as well, such as "widom-larsen." . Since no one knows yet, I can't tell you which it is, but as far as your physicist's "energy in the known universe" comment, someone should tell that to all the hot fusion scientists out there, because they could save a lot of money by NOT building billion dollar tokamaks. lol . . . . It happens in every star, so it clearly can happen. The question is, "at what minimum energy level." I'll say it's something like the discovery of super-conducting, it takes time to figure out what's happening, and then more time to put it to use. Pons/Fleishmann got the ball rolling. . Here's a few sites to look at if you want to learn more. This first link will take you to a video with Professor Brian Josephson , Nobel Prize winning and professor of physics at Cambridge University. That should get anybody's curiosity up. Imo, this is the real deal and will turn out to be as important as the use and development of fire, oil, or fission. . . . http://coldfusion3.com/blog/cold-fusion-and-universities-the-time-has-come/ . . . . This site has pretty good reporting on all things cold fusion. . . . http://www.e-catworld.com/ this guy has a grudge with Rossi, but some good stuff. . . . http://blog.newenergytimes.com/ . . . . And here's a link about a meeting at CERN. http://energycatalyzer3.com/news/cern-planning-lenr- colloquium-and-webcast/ All the best.

No offense intended, but you obviously haven't investigated this "new science" since you don't even know that very basic aspect. All the cold fusion/LENR/E-Cat systems are starting with powdered Nickel and Hydrogen and reporting some transmutation into Copper. Until you know more about it, you might want to consider refraining from saying what it is or is not. You obviously know a good bit about physics, so I think you'll find it worthwhile. ;))

I've actually been following the Rossi saga for quite a while, so I do know what the cold fusion claims are all about. I based what I said only on the text contained above, and made no assumptions that were not explicitly stated in that text. That "mud" described up there does not behave chemically like nickel; its behavior suggests to me that it may be powdered magnesium (but I do not know for sure).

Of course it violates the *known* properties of the Coulomb barrier. There are some other explanations as well, such as "widom-larsen." . Since no one knows yet, I can't tell you which it is, but as far as your physicist's "energy in the known universe" comment, someone should tell that to all the hot fusion scientists out there, because they could save a lot of money by NOT building billion dollar tokamaks. lol . . . . It happens in every star, so it clearly can happen. The question is, "at what minimum energy level."

I doubt, at this point, that there are "properties" of the Coulomb barrier waiting to be found. In any case, the nuclear fusion process that occurs in stars, and which engineers are attempting to contain within tokamak reactors, occurs strictly among small atoms such as hydrogen (one proton) and helium (two protons). This is documented to occur only in high energy (high temperature) environments. The larger the atom is, the more energy it takes to shove a proton past the Coulomb barrier--hence the comment that there isn't enough energy in the universe to shove a proton past the Coulomb energy barrier of nickel with its 28 protons. As for Widom-Larson, I wasn't able to find anything in the scientific literature about it. And what I found did not look scientific. I'll look for more on that later.