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To: SoConPubbie

PLEASE Would Jesus vote for Newt Gingrich Liberal!

Grow up. I think Jesus would have a problem with Newt as well.

Again We are not voting for a CHURCH PASTOR, or voting for approval of sin.

http://themoralcollapseofamerica.blogspot.com/2011/12/newt-gingrich-liberal.html

If you plan on voting for Newt Gingrich, please read the rest of the information below first.

The following are 10 reasons why Newt Gingrich is liberal....

#1 Newt Gingrich was promoting the principles of Obamacare before Obamacare was even invented. Republicans are supposed to be against Obamacare, and yet a huge percentage of them are supporting a candidate that was pushing an individual mandate way before Obamacare was ever even invented.

Gingrich says that he will repeal Obamacare, but back in 2008 Gingrich wrote a book entitled “Real Change” in which he endorsed an individual health care mandate.

So should we believe what Gingrich is saying now or should we believe what he has been saying for nearly 20 years?

#2 Before he was running for president, he was running around the country with Al Sharpton promoting the socialist education policies of the Obama administration.

#3 Back in 2008 Gingrich actually did a television commercial with Nancy Pelosi in which he declared that “our country must take action to address climate change”.

#4 Not only that, Gingrich also has promoted the idea of a “cap and trade” carbon trading scheme. Back in 2007, Gingrich said the following....

“I think if you have mandatory carbon caps combined with a trading system, much like we did with sulfur, and if you have a tax-incentive program for investing in the solutions, that there’s a package there that’s very, very good. And frankly, it’s something I would strongly support.”
#5 While he was in Congress, Newt Gingrich co-sponsored 418 bills with Nancy Pelosi.

#6 As we have seen during the recent debates, Gingrich openly supports amnesty for millions of illegal aliens.

#7 In 2008 Newt Gingrich declared that he would have voted for the TARP bailout if he was still a member of Congress.

#8 While Newt Gingrich was the Speaker of the House the amount of taxes collected by the U.S. government soared from $1.001 trillion to $1.511 trillion.

#9 Newt Gingrich is a big time Washington insider that is often paid huge sums of money for doing next to nothing. Gingrich has said that he was paid $300,000 for “work” that he did for Freddie Mac, but according to Bloomberg he actually earned somewhere between $1.6 million and $1.8 million between 1999 and 2008.

#10 The Republican Party is supposed to be the party of “moral values”, but they are getting ready to send someone to the White House that has a track record that would make Bill Clinton blush.

The following is how a recent Business Insider article described the “skeletons in the closet” from his personal life....

Newt’s personal baggage is either weird or scary. He married his high-school geometry teacher. He cheated on her and divorced her while she had cancer. So he married Marianne Ginther six months later. But that wasn’t to last.

Gingrich conducted a tawdry affair behind her back with one of his staffers while making political hay out of Clinton’s affair with a White House intern. He then divorced Marian
ne and married the staffer.

How in the world can Republicans be supporting this guy?


89 posted on 04/11/2012 9:08:37 PM PDT by bkaycee
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To: bkaycee

You are exposing yourself as filth. You are not God and you will not cancel Newt’s confessions to God with your tawdry deceits on FR. I don’t believe a word you post, so I think you’re a lying mormon working to assassinate Newt for your dead soul rominy. Keep posting your filth and expose yourself the more. Are you familiar with the expression ‘accuser of the brethren’? You are showing yourself to be of your father, the father of lies, the accuser of the brethren, a murderer from the start.


93 posted on 04/11/2012 9:15:29 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Being deceived can be cured.)
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To: bkaycee
PLEASE Would Jesus vote for Newt Gingrich Liberal!

Grow up. I think Jesus would have a problem with Newt as well.

. . . . . .

#10 The Republican Party is supposed to be the party of “moral values”, but they are getting ready to send someone to the White House that has a track record that would make Bill Clinton blush.

The following is how a recent Business Insider article described the “skeletons in the closet” from his personal life....

Newt’s personal baggage is either weird or scary. He married his high-school geometry teacher. He cheated on her and divorced her while she had cancer. So he married Marianne Ginther six months later. But that wasn’t to last.

Gingrich conducted a tawdry affair behind her back with one of his staffers while making political hay out of Clinton’s affair with a White House intern. He then divorced Marian ne and married the staffer.


You've posted crap that we have all been warned against posting, furthermore, Newt has publicly stated that he has repented of this and asked God for forgiveness.

And yet Mitt lied about having a Pro-Life conversion because he then went and nominated an extreme Abortion supporter and still supported stem-cell research.

Mitt has never been honest and has continually lied about his implementing Gay Marriage unconstitutionally in MA.

Mitt has continually lied about his opponents in the Primaries and to this day is still practicing bearing false witness against his neighbor.

Mitt lied when he stated at CPAC that "I have always been Pro-Life."

Mitt lied when he statede at CPAC that "I was a severely conservative governor of MA".



#1 Newt Gingrich was promoting the principles of Obamacare before Obamacare was even invented. Republicans are supposed to be against Obamacare, and yet a huge percentage of them are supporting a candidate that was pushing an individual mandate way before Obamacare was ever even invented.

Gingrich says that he will repeal Obamacare, but back in 2008 Gingrich wrote a book entitled “Real Change” in which he endorsed an individual health care mandate.

So should we believe what Gingrich is saying now or should we believe what he has been saying for nearly 20 years?


Your problem is that your boy Mitt Romney is not backing away from the individual mandate and that his campaign staff is telling everyone that Mitt want's to implement RomneyCare in all 50 States and furthermore, his campaign staff is stating that there are parts of ObamaCare that will not need to be repealed.

Once again, which Romney do we believe?

#9 Newt Gingrich is a big time Washington insider that is often paid huge sums of money for doing next to nothing. Gingrich has said that he was paid $300,000 for “work” that he did for Freddie Mac, but according to Bloomberg he actually earned somewhere between $1.6 million and $1.8 million between 1999 and 2008.

Another Mitt Romney lie debunked by Newt himself. You must be a Romney operative.

Relationship with Freddie Mac

Recent reporting from Bloomberg News on the Gingrich Group’s consulting services for Freddie Mac confirms that Gingrich and his firm were not paid to lobby and that Gingrich never acted as an advocate to stop any legislation or regulation affecting Freddie Mac.

After leaving public office, Newt Gingrich founded a number of very successful small businesses. One of these small businesses, a consulting firm called The Gingrich Group, offered strategic advice on a wide variety of topics to a very wide range of clients. One of these clients was Freddie Mac. At no time did Gingrich lobby for Freddie Mac, or for any client, and neither did anyone in Gingrich’s firm. This prohibition against lobbying was made clear to all Gingrich Group clients. Nor did Gingrich ever advocate against pending legislation affecting Freddie Mac, as some articles have incorrectly alleged. In fact, recent reporting from Bloomberg News on the Gingrich Group’s consulting services for Freddie Mac confirms that Gingrich and his firm were not paid to lobby and that Gingrich never acted as an advocate to stop any legislation or regulation affecting Freddie Mac.

Furthermore, as the New York Times documents, Newt urged House Republicans to vote against the bailout of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac. View Newt’s Freddie Mac consulting contract here.


#6 As we have seen during the recent debates, Gingrich openly supports amnesty for millions of illegal aliens.

As we have seen from Romney, he is on record supporting McCain-Kennedy and seperately stating that those here illegally should be legalized (Amnesty). Again, which Mitt are we to believe?

#2 Before he was running for president, he was running around the country with Al Sharpton promoting the socialist education policies of the Obama administration.

Another distortion from the Romney campaign, are you sure you're not Mitt Romney? We're hearing all the decietful, lying crap that Romney has used in his decietful character assasination against Newt. Following is the truth on this issue, the truth you convienently left out.

Education Tour with Al Sharpton and Arnie Duncan

Newt has long been an ardent supporter of empowering parents to choose the best school for their children by removing power from educational bureaucracies and unions.

A critical first step in empowering parents is to vastly expand the number of charter schools, which are now artificially limited by caps set by bureaucrats. Newt will with work with anyone, regardless of political affiliation, who shares his pro-family conviction that it is the parents’ right to send their student to a charter school of their choice. In 2009, Rev. Al Sharpton and Secretary of Education Arne Duncan – two prominent figures on the Left – decided that they agreed with the Gingrich position, and the group appeared in several events together promoting the charter school movement. Newt was not endorsing any other initiatives, including the Obama Administration’s so-called “Race to the Top.”


#8 While Newt Gingrich was the Speaker of the House the amount of taxes collected by the U.S. government soared from $1.001 trillion to $1.511 trillion.

And what does that have to do with anything? Did you forget the Contract with America, he promised and delivered on 9 of the 10 items on that contract.

#4 Not only that, Gingrich also has promoted the idea of a “cap and trade” carbon trading scheme. Back in 2007, Gingrich said the following....

“I think if you have mandatory carbon caps combined with a trading system, much like we did with sulfur, and if you have a tax-incentive program for investing in the solutions, that there’s a package there that’s very, very good. And frankly, it’s something I would strongly support.”


And yet Mitt didn't just mouth support for a Carbon Cap-and-Trade system, he created one.

Once again, given your support for a lying, left-wing, Progressive Liberal, and given the regurgitation of a lot of crap from the Romney campaign, I ask you, who are you working for?

An GOP-E related organization or a Romney related organization?

99 posted on 04/11/2012 9:35:05 PM PDT by SoConPubbie
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To: bkaycee; Jim Robinson; Admin Moderator
#10 The Republican Party is supposed to be the party of “moral values”, but they are getting ready to send someone to the White House that has a track record that would make Bill Clinton blush.

The following is how a recent Business Insider article described the “skeletons in the closet” from his personal life....

Newt’s personal baggage is either weird or scary. He married his high-school geometry teacher. He cheated on her and divorced her while she had cancer. So he married Marianne Ginther six months later. But that wasn’t to last.

Gingrich conducted a tawdry affair behind her back with one of his staffers while making political hay out of Clinton’s affair with a White House intern. He then divorced Marian ne and married the staffer.


I thought we had a moratorium on the posting of this type of low-life gutter garbage?
100 posted on 04/11/2012 9:37:48 PM PDT by SoConPubbie
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To: bkaycee

I support Newt 100%. Best conservative running. I suggest you back way off with the insults or leave FR!


117 posted on 04/11/2012 10:13:06 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (There's no crying in rebellion!!)
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To: bkaycee; SoConPubbie
Again We are not voting for a CHURCH PASTOR..

Well, I've had this discussion many a time on various FR threads...where the Q is raised: Are we voting for a 'pastor-in-chief' or commander-in-chief?

There's a few operating Bible-based "principles" that undergird this Q...And it's essentially this:

Principle: This question addresses not only the role and identity of the POTUS, but the perceived 'self' identity of the candidate. If a given candidate thinks he's a 'god' or 'would-be' god, he exposes himself as deceived on one of the most basic elemental identity issues you can think of.

If a candidate doesn't even know who he is fundamentally, how do we know similar distortions won't effect his judgment? Besides, if he inwardly lauds himself as 'divine,' why would we want to reinforce such an idolater who steals glory from the One True God?

Then there's an associated principle to consider here: Is a POTUS a 'minister' of sorts?

Apparently, you might say 'no.'

I say 'yes,' and here's why:

Even non-religious people tend to at times honor the Bible. The Biblical record shows that true successful leadership in public office is done by those who fear the TRUE Lord -- not by some low-level Mormon god who is part of a great number of Mormon gods...

And these Biblical leaders did not -- or were not to -- worship false gods/idols. The Old Testament is replete w/ such examples. The Israelites had secular kings, not "pastors in chief." But that didn't mean that these kings' ministrations were any less a "ministry." Romans 13 makes it clear that public office is also a "ministry." Those who contend against this are openly militating against this Scripture.

It doesn't mean that public officeholders administrate in a parochial way; it just means that public office is a "ministry of service" like the soup kitchen down the street.

History (biblical & otherwise) shows that the more pagan or counterfeit god that a leader adheres to, the more trouble that leader's "exhaust" settles on the people-at-large. Kings & presidents need all the grace, mercy, & guidance possible, since God gets more credit for preserving & directing leaders than we care to give Him credit for. Therefore, one who worships a false god & has no true relationship w/the living God is stifling access to God's resources; & a nation may suffer for that.

Therefore, we must weigh a candidate's level of vulnerability to deception - for that transcends 'religious' considerations: If a candidate is gullible in the most important area of his life -- his faith – this serves as an excellent indicator of potential other gullibilities.

125 posted on 04/12/2012 3:26:31 AM PDT by Colofornian ( It's not even 'conservative convictions' be damned anymore; they've ALREADY BEEN anathematized.)
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