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To: Wonder Warthog
I still haven't read the .pdf but will get to it after I do some wrenching.

At risk of arousing the knee-jerk anti-Rossi brigage....yes....there are variations of turbines that can be run on lower temperature steam..Rossi mentions that Siemens has such technology, and it is what he plans to use to generate electricity from his E-cats.

We might as well leave Rossi out of the picture for now but I thought 400o to 450oC was the normal range for a steam turbine? If not, what is the lowest typical operating range for a steam turbine power plant?

I don't know if I'm reading this correctly. You said it's similar to zirconium oxide -palladium or that is what they use? So, is it an electrolytic cell like P&F? If so, what is the availability of this element, zirconium oxide?

Looking at a periodic table, zirconium 40) palladium (46) is farther to the right of Iron than Nickel(28) and copper (29)are. My understanding is that in what is thought of as conventional fusion, going to the right of Iron on the periodic table means it takes more energy to fuse these elements together where if the elements are to the left of Iron, fusing them gets you more energy out??

Is there a hole in conventional physics or can it explain these reactions? If not and these do work, it sounds like whoever gets the theory right might be the man of the hour so to speak.

39 posted on 03/31/2012 8:56:16 AM PDT by Lx (Do you like it, do you like it. Scott? I call it Mr. and Mrs. Tennerman chili.)
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To: Lx
"We might as well leave Rossi out of the picture for now but I thought 400o to 450oC was the normal range for a steam turbine? If not, what is the lowest typical operating range for a steam turbine power plant?"

This is on the low end. Typical is ~420 to 650C. Of course, this is using water. There are other working fluids that can use lower temperatures. It's all a question of the minimum thermal efficiency you're willing to settle for.

"I don't know if I'm reading this correctly. You said it's similar to zirconium oxide -palladium or that is what they use? So, is it an electrolytic cell like P&F? If so, what is the availability of this element, zirconium oxide?

My bad. You're right. They are using an electrolysis cell. I knew they had used an e-cell for their phase 1 tests, but thought they had switched to gas loading for phase 2, but what they have actually done is to operate their e-cell at very high pressures (and thus higher temps). With all the successful replications showing up, sometimes it's hard to keep straight who used what approach.

43 posted on 03/31/2012 6:07:34 PM PDT by Wonder Warthog
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