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Mystery solved? Turin Shroud linked to Resurrection of Christ
The Telegraph UK ^ | 24 Mar 2012 | By Peter Stanford

Posted on 03/30/2012 1:16:09 AM PDT by Swordmaker

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1 posted on 03/30/2012 1:16:20 AM PDT by Swordmaker
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To: Swordmaker

thanks for the post Swordmaker.


2 posted on 03/30/2012 1:17:06 AM PDT by GOP Poet
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To: Alamo-Girl; albee; AnalogReigns; AnAmericanMother; Angelas; AniGrrl; annalex; annyokie; ...
This Article refers to a new book that claims the Shroud of Turin is the REAL DEAL... and more importantly, IS THE BASIS for the claim that Jesus of Nazareth rose from the dead... because The IMAGE ON THE SHROUD is what the apostles saw and mistook for the risen Jesus!—SHROUD OF TURIN PING!

If you want on or off the Shroud of Turin Ping List, Freepmail me.


3 posted on 03/30/2012 1:22:15 AM PDT by Swordmaker (This tag line is a Microsoft product "insult" free zone.)
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To: Swordmaker

bflr


4 posted on 03/30/2012 1:23:15 AM PDT by Captain Beyond (The Hammer of the gods! (Just a cool line from a Led Zep song))
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To: Swordmaker
... and more importantly, IS THE BASIS for the claim that Jesus of Nazareth rose from the dead... because The IMAGE ON THE SHROUD is what the apostles saw and mistook for the risen Jesus!

That's the thesis of the book, or the article about the book?

5 posted on 03/30/2012 1:27:41 AM PDT by papertyger ("And how we burned in the camps later, thinking: What would things have been like if...")
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That's the thesis of the book, or the article about the book?

Thesis of the book... and the article is about the book, "The Sign"...

6 posted on 03/30/2012 1:32:11 AM PDT by Swordmaker (This tag line is a Microsoft product "insult" free zone.)
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Yes, it is....and that’s why what could otherwise have been a good book is nonsense.

This guy lays out a good case for the authenticity of the Shroud (albeit he plows no new ground), THEN makes one hell of a leap in logic to declare that the disciples’ viewing of His image on the cloth is the entire basis for the resurrection (despite dozens of sightings of Christ post-crucifixion). Frankly, stuff like this just pisses me off.

Without a resurrection (not just viewing an image on a burial cloth), there IS no Christianity.


7 posted on 03/30/2012 1:32:41 AM PDT by RightOnline (I am Andrew Breitbart!)
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To: Swordmaker

“the most elaborate hoax in history” sorry for off topic, but Obama is the most elaborate hoax, but it wont be fact for many years, when all are dead and buried.


8 posted on 03/30/2012 1:38:40 AM PDT by MrDaddyLongLegs (You dont need any qualifications to be a Politician)
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To: RightOnline; papertyger; Swordmaker
Without a resurrection (not just viewing an image on a burial cloth), there IS no Christianity.

He is risen indeed!

Remember the story of Doubting Thomas, and how Christ put his doubts to rest? Not an image, but live human flesh!

Luke 24:39 "Look at my hands and my feet. It is I myself! Touch me and see; a ghost does not have flesh and bones, as you see I have."

Luke 24:40 When he had said this, he showed them his hands and feet.

9 posted on 03/30/2012 1:40:46 AM PDT by thecodont
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To: Swordmaker

I can’t believe I read that whole article. I was expecting at least something interesting, but that was just dumb. It’s almost like the whole world is going nuts...


10 posted on 03/30/2012 1:45:14 AM PDT by csense
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To: Swordmaker

thanks for the warning

There is NOTHING that pisses me off worse than some theoretician or academic, so enamoured of their own opinion, or powers of persuasion, that they will actually attempt to make an argument like “second-hand smoke is MORE dangerous than smoking, itself”

Such theses aren’t “counter-intuitive.”

They’re insulting!


11 posted on 03/30/2012 2:03:51 AM PDT by papertyger ("And how we burned in the camps later, thinking: What would things have been like if...")
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To: thecodont

Precisely.


12 posted on 03/30/2012 2:06:54 AM PDT by RightOnline (I am Andrew Breitbart!)
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To: Swordmaker
So the shroud Jesus was wrapped in was found in the tomb?
13 posted on 03/30/2012 2:08:02 AM PDT by BigCinBigD
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To: papertyger
Totally agree.

Know what an "expert" is? Someone who knows just this much more than you do on a particular subject....and lives more than 100 miles away.

14 posted on 03/30/2012 2:13:20 AM PDT by RightOnline (I am Andrew Breitbart!)
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To: Swordmaker

The theory would be a plausible explanation for why some people 2000 years ago believed in spirits.

But as an explanation of the Shroud, it seems more dismissive.


15 posted on 03/30/2012 2:18:12 AM PDT by Erik Latranyi (When religions have to beg the gov't for a waiver, we are already under socialism.)
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To: Swordmaker

Yeah. Brown smudges on a piece of cloth look JUST like a man walking through doors and talking and cooking fish on the beach and showing the wounds in his body.

What a crackpot.


16 posted on 03/30/2012 2:43:46 AM PDT by Arthur McGowan (In Edward Kennedy's America, federal funding of brothels is a right, not a privilege.)
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Is there anything good coming out of UK? Condemned land!


17 posted on 03/30/2012 3:01:42 AM PDT by God-fear-republican
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To: Swordmaker

How does anyone know that is what Jesus really looked like?


18 posted on 03/30/2012 3:02:33 AM PDT by stuartcr ("In this election year of 12, how deep into their closets will we delve?")
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To: thecodont

Yeah, and did the Shroud image eat a fish by the shore of Lake Galilee? Kinda of a silly thesis this guy has.

Te Shroud as an artifact could well have cemented and confirmed the appearance of the Resurrected Christ. But it was never wholly essential to the narrative.


19 posted on 03/30/2012 3:19:03 AM PDT by Claud
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So the disciples were so stupid that they ate with the Shroud?


20 posted on 03/30/2012 3:52:43 AM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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