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To: Bulwinkle
... it was a group teenagers pool hopping in Rowan’s back yard... Rowan thought one of them was approaching him and shot him. The Trayvon shooting is very similar... Zimmerman said Trayvon attacked him then shot him.

The only similarity is that both Rowan and Zimmerman shot an unarmed teenager. Rowan was on his own private property when he pulled the trigger; Zimmerman was on public property whan he killed the kid. Rowan's victim was actually commiting a crime; Zimmerman's victim medrely "looked suspiscious." Rowan did not chase his victim to initiate a confrontation after the police told him to back down; Zimmerman apparently pursued Trayvon AFTER THE POLICE TOLD ZIMMERMAN TO BACK DOWN as Trayvon was running away from Zimmerman towards the rear exit to the the neighborhood.

9 posted on 03/24/2012 4:46:48 AM PDT by Labyrinthos
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To: Labyrinthos
Zimmerman's victim medrely "looked suspicious."

Zimmerman's perp was beating the sh** out of him when he got shot. The other guy shot someone simply for being on his property. You're right there is a difference, the 1988 liberal is guilty of murder Zimmerman isn't.

BTW, assaulting someone simply because you don't like them following you is a crime and at the time he was assaulted by the kid Zimmerman was no longer following him, but on his way back to his truck. An eyewitness saw the whole thing and the kid started the fight and was assaulting Zimmerman. Try keeping up with the facts.

13 posted on 03/24/2012 5:29:54 AM PDT by calex59
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To: Labyrinthos
chase his victim to initiate a confrontation after the police told him to back down

The police did not tell him to "back down".
They told him that they did not need him to follow the suspicious individual.
I can't for the life of me think of any situation in which the police
would advise a concerned citizen to follow a suspicious individual, can you?
Even though the concerned citizen keeping the suspicious person in view would help the police locate him
they would leave themselves liable if, as it appears May have happened here,
the suspicious person was to attack the concerned citizen.
In other words it is the standard response to a concerned citizen.
Some say they detect a change in Z's breathing after receiving the police suggestion
indicating that he had stopped following M.
I haven't reviewed that part and can't give an opinion.

There is no evidence that Z chased down M to initiated a confrontation. None.
There is evidence that M approached Z and asked why Z was following him.
Z's response was to ask what M was doing in the area.
At that point the sounds of a scuffle were heard.
(Z's recorded call and M's gf's report of her call with M)

We can speculate who initiated the confrontation.

Was it the wannabe cop, the neighborhood Nazi, Zimmerman.

Was it the concerned citizen Zimmerman assuming some responsibility for neighbor safety.
Zimmerman, who had initiated many others calls to police regarding suspicious behavior
and who in one of his previous calls is heard saying he doesn't want to approach a suspicious individual?

Was was it the innocent 'young boy' who appears to be no more than 13
and no threat whatsoever to a hulking Zimmerman,
only out for skittles and on his was back to his Dad's?

Or was it the 6ft football player with a ghetto attitude who took offense to the 'white' Zimmerman disrespecting him by asking him why he was there?

...end speculation

What we do know from an eyewitness is that M is seen on top of Z and is beating on him.
We know from eye and ear witnesses and from 911 calls that Z is screaming for help.

We know that after a police investigation no charges where filed on Z.

17 posted on 03/24/2012 6:14:39 AM PDT by kanawa
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To: Labyrinthos

Rowan still should have been convicted. Even if Zimmerman went further out of his way to get into trouble. So where does that leave Zimmerman?


18 posted on 03/24/2012 6:19:36 AM PDT by Oztrich Boy (This world is a comedy to those that think, a tragedy to those that feel - Horace Walpole)
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To: Labyrinthos

Please note the crime in the Rowan case was trespass. Rowan was also committing a crime. The facts, which are irrelevant, to most, will come out.


22 posted on 03/24/2012 7:33:20 AM PDT by count-your-change (You don't have to be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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To: Labyrinthos

You live a rich fantasy life.

Grow up.


23 posted on 03/24/2012 7:43:36 AM PDT by Eldon Tyrell
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To: Labyrinthos
Wow according to the 911 police tape Martin had given up pursuit of St Trayvee when the little 6'2" man/boy football player ambush tackled and assaulted him.

That is FACT.

24 posted on 03/24/2012 7:47:11 AM PDT by rawcatslyentist (Mohammedan law every woman must belong to a man will delay the end of slavery until Islam has ceased)
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To: Labyrinthos
Rowan's victim was actually commiting a crime; Zimmerman's victim medrely "looked suspiscious."

Zimmerman's "victim" was commiting the crime of assault and battery. Had he not been shot it could have escalated to maiming or manslaughter.

26 posted on 03/24/2012 8:00:20 AM PDT by JimRed (Excising a cancer before it kills us waters the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS, NOW AND FOREVER!)
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To: Labyrinthos
Zimmerman's victim medrely "looked suspiscious." Rowan did not chase his victim to initiate a confrontation after the police told him to back down; Zimmerman apparently pursued Trayvon AFTER THE POLICE TOLD ZIMMERMAN TO BACK DOWN as Trayvon was running away from Zimmerman towards the rear exit to the the neighborhood.

An eyewitness reported that Trayvon was on top of Zimmerman and punching him in the face. The background noise on the eyewitness' 911 call to the police support this claim.

I suppose you'd rather believe everything Sharpton, Jackson, The New Black Pampers and the eneMedia claim.

27 posted on 03/24/2012 8:04:55 AM PDT by Grizzled Bear (No More RINOS!)
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