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To: Lazamataz
I knew I was powerless at age 16, when I would make myself throw up just so I could drink more. Now the unmanagability thing....THAT gave me fits for another 27 years.

Most of the AA haters don't understand the program is a design for living, rather than a ‘stop drinking’ program. They fail to understand that the alcohol was but a symptom. I gave testimony at my church a few months ago, and a large part of it included my journey in sobriety. Afterward, the pastor commented that he had no idea that the 12 steps were so spiritual.

And on the 5-10% success rate......the 12 steps that I follow have a nearly 100% success rate. I can count on one hand the number of people I know who have ‘thoroughly followed our path’ and gone back to drinking.

Sobriety in AA doesn't come through osmosis, it is a program of action. An example I use quite often in meeting:

I can sit in the best gym on the planet, watching everyone work out, take notes, order videos, hire personal trainers, etc. But until I take the action and put in the the work, I don't get any stronger.

Also...I'm not sure why they call them fifths, I could only get four out of a bottle!

89 posted on 03/18/2012 6:27:20 PM PDT by highnoon (BREAKING NEWS: Voter ID Law struck down so President can vote!)
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To: highnoon

I think being accountable to other people makes most people stay sober. These people all give a crap about each other too.


94 posted on 03/18/2012 7:36:57 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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