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To: MindBender26

You need to read Post 102.

And I don’t take a single pill (short of an ibuprofen for headache occasionally) so you can’t really define me as a “pill popper”. As for “too lazy to read the study”, it’s more of a “won’t waste her time with reading Obama propaganda”.

You can however count me as someone who worked with people who WERE helped with both chemicals and natural medicine. All I can tell you is, Harvard will find what it wants and it should give you pause when academia and CBS agree on anything.


113 posted on 02/20/2012 11:07:50 AM PST by netmilsmom (Happiness is a choice)
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To: netmilsmom
Read the report. It's not magic. It is simply a compendium of the research done by Eli Lilly itself when testing Prozac before the FDA approval!

By FDA rules, clinical studies that show any drug is safe and effective is admissible, and a study that shows the drug is ineffective is ignored by the FDA.

A company could get 20 negative tests in a row, and as long as they get two positive trials, over any time period, the drug will be approved!

There is no debate that people with depression get well. Many of them took Prozac, Welbutrin or other such drugs. They also ate mashed potatoes.

The studies all confirmed that Prozac was more effective than a placebo in only 14 percent of the cases, and only when the patient was severely depressed.

In the moderately or minimally depressed, (often called “stinkin’ thinkin’”) Prozac had no effect than that created by the placebo sugar pill.

Yes the moderately and minimally depressed people got well, but it wasn't because of the Prozac, nor was it because of the mashed potatoes!

And in the severely depressed, only 14% got help from Prozac. The other 86% who got well did it through talk therapy and their own commitment to getting well.

Those are the facts, from Eli Lilly's own clinical trials!

119 posted on 02/20/2012 4:20:40 PM PST by MindBender26 (New Army SF and Ranger Slogan: Vengeance is Mine, sayeth the Lord.... but He subcontracts!)
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To: netmilsmom
Read the report. It's not magic. It is simply a compendium of the research done by Eli Lilly itself when testing Prozac before the FDA approval!

By FDA rules, clinical studies that show any drug is safe and effective is admissible, and a study that shows the drug is ineffective is ignored by the FDA.

A company could get 20 negative tests in a row, and as long as they get two positive trials, over any time period, the drug will be approved!

There is no debate that people with depression get well. Many of them took Prozac, Welbutrin or other such drugs. They also ate mashed potatoes.

The studies all confirmed that Prozac was more effective than a placebo in only 14 percent of the cases, and only when the patient was severely depressed.

In the moderately or minimally depressed, (often called “stinkin’ thinkin’”) Prozac had no greater effect than that created by the placebo sugar pill.

Yes the moderately and minimally depressed people got well, but it wasn't because of the Prozac, nor was it because of the mashed potatoes!

And in the severely depressed, only 14% got help from Prozac. The other 86% who got well did it through talk therapy and their own commitment to getting well.

Those are the facts, from Eli Lilly's own clinical trials!

120 posted on 02/20/2012 4:20:58 PM PST by MindBender26 (New Army SF and Ranger Slogan: Vengeance is Mine, sayeth the Lord.... but He subcontracts!)
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