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To: DiogenesLamp

When that “utter crap of no legal value” is repeatedly upheld in courts across the country, will you perhaps entertain the notion that you are wrong? Or do you really feel you understand the issue better than all those judges?


248 posted on 02/20/2012 8:33:09 AM PST by Harlan1196
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Or do you really feel you understand the issue better than all those judges?

@Ankeny v Governor of Indiana

9 The Plaintiffs cite the “natural born Citizen” clause as Article II, Section 1, Clause 5 of the U.S. Constitution, but it is properly cited as Article II, Section 1, Clause 4.

@Article 2, Section 1, Clause 4

The Congress may determine the Time of chusing the Electors, and the Day on which they shall give their Votes; which Day shall be the same throughout the United States.

@Article 2, Section 1, Clause 5

No Person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President; neither shall any person be eligible to that Office who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty five Years, and been fourteen Years a Resident within the United States.

How could the court make such an error? They made the same error many times over.

250 posted on 02/20/2012 8:46:26 AM PST by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: Harlan1196
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Or do you really feel you understand the issue better than all those judges?

@Ankeny v Governor of Indiana

9 The Plaintiffs cite the “natural born Citizen” clause as Article II, Section 1, Clause 5 of the U.S. Constitution, but it is properly cited as Article II, Section 1, Clause 4.

@Article 2, Section 1, Clause 4

The Congress may determine the Time of chusing the Electors, and the Day on which they shall give their Votes; which Day shall be the same throughout the United States.

@Article 2, Section 1, Clause 5

No Person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President; neither shall any person be eligible to that Office who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty five Years, and been fourteen Years a Resident within the United States.

How could the court make such an error? They made the same error many times over.

Are you incapable of recognizing an error made by the court?

255 posted on 02/20/2012 9:20:10 AM PST by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: Harlan1196
When that “utter crap of no legal value” is repeatedly upheld in courts across the country, will you perhaps entertain the notion that you are wrong? Or do you really feel you understand the issue better than all those judges?

I absolutely understand this issue better than most Judges. I defy a one of them to demonstrate the working knowledge which I have accumulated regarding this issue. All THEY know how to do is tell me what they think some other judge thought about something the founders meant. Third hand opinion is all they are good for.

In order to correctly understand what is the meaning of the term "natural born citizen" you must SKIP OVER what is legal opinion, and go straight to the era in question and Learn what The Founders said, read, thought and acted.

THAT is where the truth lies. Not in reading the third hand opinion of some lawyer misapplying a precedent not even dealing with the issue.

YOUR understanding creates "anchor babies" as "natural born citizens" able to be President, and requires Exceptions for three glaringly obvious examples which do not fit your rule. You must have an exception for Slaves, (Changed in 1868) You must have an exception for Indians (Changed in 1924) and You must have an exception for Diplomats. (Still an exception.)

The CORRECT understanding of the term "natural born citizen" under the jus sanguinus principles requires no exceptions in any of the above cases, and does NOT create "anchor babies."

Now who is the fool here? The one who thinks our laws are supposed to create these obvious absurdities, or the one who thinks the founders were not morons?

Since you are so infatuated with what courts have to say about this issue, Here is a court case (ex parte reynolds, 1879) for you to review while pondering why your belief yields such ridiculous results.

The Universal Maxim of the Common Law being Partus Sequitur Patrem...

256 posted on 02/20/2012 9:21:28 AM PST by DiogenesLamp (Partus Sequitur Patrem)
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To: Harlan1196
When that “utter crap of no legal value” is repeatedly upheld in courts across the country, will you perhaps entertain the notion that you are wrong?

The Utter Crap of Roe v Wade is repeatedly upheld in courts across the country. Do you believe it isn't wrong?

257 posted on 02/20/2012 9:23:19 AM PST by DiogenesLamp (Partus Sequitur Patrem)
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