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The Phantom Menace: was it THAT bad?
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| 02/10/2012
| Jonathan Crocker and Neil Smith
Posted on 02/13/2012 8:42:27 PM PST by nickcarraway
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To: chris37
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posted on
02/13/2012 9:20:19 PM PST
by
PzLdr
("The Emperor is not as forgiving as I am" - Darth Vader)
To: PzLdr
Actually, besides Maul, the only thing good in Phantom Menace was Watto. Tough to find an Italian running a chop shop in a galaxy far, far away, long, long ago.
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posted on
02/13/2012 9:22:55 PM PST
by
PzLdr
("The Emperor is not as forgiving as I am" - Darth Vader)
To: nickcarraway
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posted on
02/13/2012 9:23:00 PM PST
by
krb
(Obama is a miserable failure.)
To: nickcarraway
The Phantom Menace: was it THAT bad?
Yes. Yes, it was.
To: Lurker
Clearly you haven’t seen Star Trek 5 or Battlefield Earth.
To: nickcarraway
Yes, it sucked.
However Attack of The Clones sucked worse.
Until I found that if you cut every scene with Anikin and Whats-her-name until they are hauled into the arena it is actually not that bad.
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posted on
02/13/2012 9:39:44 PM PST
by
Harmless Teddy Bear
(Would you sing if someone sucked YOU up the vacuum cleaner hose?)
To: nickcarraway
Bottom line for me: Between episode IV starting in 1977 and episode III in the new movies, Lucas destroyed his own story. So many inconsistencies, it’s not funny.
For one: Obiwan did not know Luke had a sister. Only Yoda knew that. But in episode III he is there to witness the twins being born.
I also felt, like others, he made Darth Vader way too young for the one we knew in the beginning. By the new storyline, Vader would barely be 40 years old in episode V. I don’t buy it.
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posted on
02/13/2012 9:42:56 PM PST
by
Fledermaus
(I can't fiddle so I'll just open a cold beer as I watch America burn.)
To: nickcarraway
The best part about the prequels is the rise of Senator palpatine. This part of the story is done almost entirely in the background, though, so you have to suffer through the foreground along with it.
Jar jar was an unfortunate case of target demographic pandering gone horribly wrong. In the first films, the ewoks were targeted towards pre teens and Lucas got away with it because the audience was in fact teens and pre teens. Jar jar fails because he was also created for pre teens, but the phantom menace audience was much older, they were original viewers of star wars now grown up.
To: luckystarmom
“Jar Jar Binks “
The dreaded Space Basset....
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posted on
02/13/2012 9:48:59 PM PST
by
Norm Lenhart
(Normie: Wandering Druid, Cult of Palin)
To: Fledermaus
"By the new storyline, Vader would barely be 40 years old in episode V. I dont buy it." I've also felt Lucas' timeline made no sense.
I think it's a bad joke for Lucas to keep re-releasing his films and changing them - Greedo didn't shoot first.
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posted on
02/13/2012 9:55:42 PM PST
by
Flag_This
(Real presidents don't bow.)
To: Fledermaus
What got me in "Clones" was just how MONUMENTALLY STUPID the Jedi council was, to put a horny teenage boy with a "hot" queen/senator/whatever, and not "see" sparks fly between them. I ended up not caring about any of the characters in the first two, except Quigon. Ben Kenobi got his clock cleaned by everyone who came down the pike, and he's supposed to be a Jedi master? And Yodi should've been able to just go phwiit! game over! with his lightsaber. Waste of time, the whole lot of 'em.
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posted on
02/13/2012 9:59:13 PM PST
by
Othniel
(No, I don't have a plan. And that scares you to death, doesn't it???)
To: Fledermaus
What got me in "Clones" was just how MONUMENTALLY STUPID the Jedi council was, to put a horny teenage boy with a "hot" queen/senator/whatever, and not "see" sparks fly between them. I ended up not caring about any of the characters in the first two, except Quigon. Ben Kenobi got his clock cleaned by everyone who came down the pike, and he's supposed to be a Jedi master? And Yodi should've been able to just go phwiit! game over! with his lightsaber. Waste of time, the whole lot of 'em.
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posted on
02/13/2012 9:59:31 PM PST
by
Othniel
(No, I don't have a plan. And that scares you to death, doesn't it???)
To: Norm Lenhart
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posted on
02/13/2012 10:00:07 PM PST
by
PzLdr
("The Emperor is not as forgiving as I am" - Darth Vader)
To: nickcarraway
I don’t even waste my time with new movies anymore. Nor do I watch any of that garbage that can be found on the alphabet channels.
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posted on
02/13/2012 10:01:06 PM PST
by
AlaskaErik
(I served and protected my country for 31 years. Progressives spent that time trying to destroy it.)
To: Othniel
“...just how MONMUMENTALLY STUPID the Jedi council was...”
You have to go no further than six or eight Jedi masters, including Yoda, sitting in a room with Chancellor Palpatine, and not realizing they’re within 10 feet of a Sith Lord.
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posted on
02/13/2012 10:04:41 PM PST
by
PzLdr
("The Emperor is not as forgiving as I am" - Darth Vader)
Episode 4 - Awesome
Episode 5 - Awesome
Episode 6 - Muppet Movie, Crappity Crap Crap
Episode 1 - There are no words in the English language to describe how unbelievably sucky this movie was. The closest ones I can think of would not only get me banned from FR, but also off the entire internet
Episode 2 - (see episode 1)
Episode 3 - Still horrific, but did have some good scenes
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posted on
02/13/2012 10:05:30 PM PST
by
dsrtsage
(One half of all people have below average In the US the number is 54%)
To: Othniel
Yeah, the Jedi Council was pretty damned stupid, with Sith Lord Palpatine running amok FOR YEARS right in front of their clueless noses. And the set-up with Amidala and Anakin was stupid too...she's like five or six years older than him, and his behavior amounted to creepy stalker with anger issues. But yet, she could look past all that and fall in love?
And even then, Lucas handled it very poorly. What should have happened was that Anakin and Amidala got embroiled in a public sex scandal with their babies, which was verboten with the celibate Jedi. Anakin gets tossed out of the Jedi Order, is enraged, Palpatine picks him up, and then sends him back to the Jedi Council, where he breaks bad as Darth Vader, wiping out Windu and most of the other Jedi masters singlehandledly, with only Yoda escaping his wrath. Cut then to the battle with Obi-Wan, who manages to somehow overcome Vader at the lava pit.
THAT's what should have happened in Episode III.
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posted on
02/13/2012 10:12:56 PM PST
by
Timber Rattler
(Just say NO! to RINOS and the GOP-E)
To: nickcarraway

Yes, it's that bad.
One more thing on episode 6, I had the overwhelming urge to run up to each and every one of those muppet ewoks and kick them like a football.
On episode 1, for young Anakin, and Jar-Jar, I was thinking more along the lines of wood chipper, then hydrochloric acid bath, followed finally with a few metric tons of magnesium fire started with with a good charge of thermite.
Since I cannot do those things, I think I will take my rage from the destruction of a cherished childhood memory out by doing some mailbox baseball at George Lucas’s house.
Well, time for my evening tea.
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posted on
02/13/2012 10:16:04 PM PST
by
dsrtsage
(One half of all people have below average In the US the number is 54%)
To: PzLdr
And all Yoda does throughout the first trilogy is keep on pissing Anakin off more and more, instead of reaching out and trying to help him.
Yeah, the Jedi Council got exactly what it deserved.
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posted on
02/13/2012 10:16:30 PM PST
by
Timber Rattler
(Just say NO! to RINOS and the GOP-E)
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