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The Red Giant (Five Reasons Facebook is Over)
The Reformed Broker ^ | 01/03/2012 | Joshua M Brown

Posted on 01/03/2012 6:31:35 AM PST by SeekAndFind

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1 posted on 01/03/2012 6:31:40 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

Facebook needs to disappear.


2 posted on 01/03/2012 6:35:53 AM PST by RC one (I will not vote for the gun grabbing, draft dodging, pro-choice, so called Republican Mitt Romney.)
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To: SeekAndFind

FB will survive and do well because it is the most invasive, the most insidious and the most efficient.


3 posted on 01/03/2012 6:39:20 AM PST by umgud
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To: SeekAndFind

I’ve found Facebook to be a tool for getting good face time for service organizations and groups to interact among themselves, or with the public. I maintain two service organization pages that allow interaction within the group, as well as publicize what we’re doing. I also belong to a closed group of former employees of a defunct company, that allows us to get together and reminisce, share stories, and keep up with one another.

For this, I find Facebook worthwhile. OTOH, from a personal standpoint, I spend no time posting errant thoughts or playing stupid games.


4 posted on 01/03/2012 6:39:36 AM PST by bcsco
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To: SeekAndFind
Facebook has been very useful to me in hooking back up with school friends and family members I haven't seen in 20 years. It's also been good for the TEA Party movement in allowing us to meet fellow-minded Conservatives and coordinating events and rallies. And just look how Sarah Palin used it to turn the tables on Obama and his Rat minions in 2009 and 2010.

However, as the article suggests, Zuckerberg is killing his golden goose with all the new ads and advertisements that are now cluttering up the place. My mom is getting so frustrated with it all that she rarely logs in anymore, and asked me to routinely purge her page of all the crap that is posted there.

5 posted on 01/03/2012 6:42:35 AM PST by Timber Rattler (Just say NO! to RINOS and the GOP-E)
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To: SeekAndFind

I disagree with this article. The reason I believe Facebook will survive where MySpace failed is precisely because my 62 year old Mother has an account.

It’s the first and only social network she has joined on the internet, and guess what? She won’t be going anywhere else. She has a bunch of friends on the site, she’s able to see and share photos with family, and she is comfortable using it.

She isn’t going to be jumping around looking for a better one. She will just log on, read her wall, chat with friends, use the calendar to setup parties, see pictures of family kids and surgery results, and just feel connected.

The author seems to focus on what those under 30 will do, and while it’s true they will grow tired of a lot of what Facebook offers, they will also not cancel their account. They just won’t go to it as often.

But those who are over 50... they will stay on the site for years and years to come. And Facebook, by being simple and consistant, has allowed the senior users of the internet to find a simple and consistant way to connect to those they never imagined they could stay in touch with.


6 posted on 01/03/2012 6:43:05 AM PST by Anitius Severinus Boethius
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To: 2nd amendment mama

ping—interesting read....


7 posted on 01/03/2012 6:46:33 AM PST by basil (It's time to rid the country of "gun free zones" aka "Killing Fields")
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To: SeekAndFind
The guy that wrote the article does not make much sense. FB is a quick email system that pictures are easy to manipulate. I keep up with my distant cousins. It is much more convenient and user friendly than email. Most of my cousins are over 60 and find it convenient. I would expect clunky old email would go away before FB. Adults and kids can be separate so kids really don't know who is there.
8 posted on 01/03/2012 6:47:45 AM PST by mountainlion (I am voting for Sarah after getting screwed again by the DC Thugs.)
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To: Anitius Severinus Boethius

Yep...

And those currently under 30, won’t be under 30 forever.

Plus, the ‘kids’ will find another place to congregate, but will keep their Facebook pages alive lest they lose connections already made.


9 posted on 01/03/2012 6:51:21 AM PST by mkboyce
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To: SeekAndFind

I refuse to risk my career and personal relationships over this stupid website....

I do not want my life out in the open for all to see.


10 posted on 01/03/2012 6:52:58 AM PST by Vaquero ("an armed society is a polite society" Robert A. Heinlein)
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To: SeekAndFind

“Microsoft, Apple, Google, Oracle, IBM, Yahoo, Netscape and Cisco...”

Most of these companies make real products, like operating systems, hardware, databases, and routers, things that are really needed by large businesses and individuals alike. These things are sold on the basis of price and performance.

What is Facebook? It’s an overgrown college programming project on a LAMP platform (Linux, Apache, MySQL, PHP). I’m sure the code and hardware is likely to be pretty shaky, and eventually they’ll have to spend hundreds of millions fixing it.


11 posted on 01/03/2012 6:53:15 AM PST by proxy_user
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To: SeekAndFind

If anyone with any knowledge of software development took a look under the hood, FB would die a painful death. Their IPO valuation is obviously not based on the ability to adapt and expand.


12 posted on 01/03/2012 6:54:27 AM PST by BuckeyeTexan (Man is not free unless government is limited. ~Ronald Reagan)
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To: Anitius Severinus Boethius

Advertisers don’t pay for impressions with 50 and 80 year olds.

Facebook needs 18-35 year olds to be engaged, or the ad dollars will dry up.


13 posted on 01/03/2012 6:54:50 AM PST by sbMKE
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To: SeekAndFind

After the rapid fall of Myspace, I won’t be buying into the IPO.

Something else will come along.


14 posted on 01/03/2012 6:58:22 AM PST by lacrew (Mr. Soetoro, we regret to inform you that your race card is over the credit limit.)
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To: sbMKE

Advertiser demographics are quickly shifting as the baby boomers are hitting their 50s and 60s.


15 posted on 01/03/2012 7:01:54 AM PST by Anitius Severinus Boethius
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To: SeekAndFind

Good Article. Same thing could have been written about last year’s bomb that was “Linked In”.


16 posted on 01/03/2012 7:03:27 AM PST by wbill
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To: SeekAndFind

I’m already asking my kids to not use facebook or other social media. You DON’T want that much stuff to be visible to future employers. Forever.


17 posted on 01/03/2012 7:03:57 AM PST by PapaBear3625 (During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act.)
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To: y'all

I think the point is being missed here. The thrust of the article is that FB will be a poor investment going forward because the younger crowd will tire of it and leave, and the new generation comes along on its heels will not immerse themselves in it in the first place, opting for other technological self-sufficient destinations. And advertisers (which fund the site) will flow elsewhere. I think of FB as AOL for social networking...and we all know how that panned out. Yes, there will be those who continue to utilize it, but a mature target demographic is not a prized one necessarily from a marketing perspective; this is especially true on the web.


18 posted on 01/03/2012 7:08:06 AM PST by Dysart (#Changeitback)
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To: proxy_user
eventually they’ll have to spend hundreds of millions fixing it

Yep, I read an interesting article on its MySQL back end. They're doing stuff with MySQL that it was never, ever, in a million years, designed to do.

So...they'll go public. Then, they'll need to convert (SQL? Oracle? your guess is as good as mine). They'll sink millions (10s? 100s?) into a technology company that's already far past its prime.

And that will be the end of Facebook. Sure, it will still be around (MySpace still is, as is AOL, and others. Heck, Prodigy still likely exists somewhere, as something) but Facebook will no longer be a dominant player. Meanwhile, there will be a lot of money to be made, by the current shareholders and anyone involved in the company's technical conversion.

Those coming to the party late, will pay for all of it.

19 posted on 01/03/2012 7:10:01 AM PST by wbill
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To: SeekAndFind

I think this analysis gets it just about right.

But for investors, it’s all beside the point. Of course it will decline eventually. The question is “just how many $ can be milked out of it before it does?”

And that’s an open question.

As is how much will the hysteria about it pump its stock price after the IPO (if at all)?

Those questions aside, there are some more obvious observations to be made.

1) That there are so many people who can afford such excesses speaks volumes about the level of economic devlopment most of us currently enjoy. We’re a far cry from worrying where our next meal is coming from. And by extension - coincidentally, a far cry from any degree of political revolution.

2) Advertising, as old as it is, continues to pay the bills for the media we consume.


20 posted on 01/03/2012 7:15:20 AM PST by Pessimist
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